The official HWBOT Team Cup 2013 - SC2: 3DMark03 Single GPU Historical Battle thread.

[Devroush]

PCI-e versions of 6800 GT and 6800 Ultra added.

[Blackbolt]

THX

[I.nfraR.ed]

Both launched in 2005, so not allowed.

 

Where do you get your info for X850XT/XTPE/Pro/ from?

 

I see various info on different sites.

Article from Tom's hardware (2004) - http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ati-launches-x850,413.html

Wikipedia (2005) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units#Radeon_R400_series

 

TechReport tested both X850XT and XTPE on their review from Dec 1 2004 http://techreport.com/review/7679/ati-radeon-x850-xt-graphics-cards

 

Not sure which of them were available in stores at the end of 2004 if any of them.

And even that is not a criterion, because we all know availability in different markets is different.

IMO they should be threated equally (Pro, XT and XTPE PCI-E versions) - either allow or disallow.

Edited February 12, 2013 by I.nfraR.ed

[Gamer]

I think the Pro version was released first, bought one at launch.

[OLDcomer]

What about RADEON 8500LE/9100/9000/9000 PRO? They were released in 2002.

 

Not allowed, the cards were released in 2003 and 2005. Only 2002 cards are allowed.

 

In early 2002, to compete with the cheaper GeForce 3 Ti200 and GeForce 4 MX 460, ATI launched the slower-clocked 8500LE (known as 9100 in Europe) which became popular with OEMs and enthusiasts due to its lower price, and overclockability to 8500 levels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R200

 

ATI RADEON 8500LE Review

By Vince Freeman March 11, 2002

http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/videocards/article.php/989321/ATI-RADEON-8500LE-Review.htm

 

Hercules 3D Prophet 8500 LE

By Alexandra Krasne, Capsule Review

May 22, 2002 1:00 AM

http://www.pcworld.com/article/100783/article.html

 

 

 

http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/Article.asp?datePublish=2002/12/26&pages=05&seq=21

[Snakefreak]

Hi guys on SC2 #3 Prescott vs. Clawhammer Intel: All, except a few Pentiums. But can i use celereons? Prescott-256 (Celeron D) List of them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Celeron_microprocessors#.22Prescott-256.22_.2890_nm.29

[xsuperbgx]

Where do you get your info for X850XT/XTPE/Pro/ from?

 

I see various info on different sites.

Article from Tom's hardware (2004) - http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ati-launches-x850,413.html

Wikipedia (2005) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units#Radeon_R400_series

 

TechReport tested both X850XT and XTPE on their review from Dec 1 2004 http://techreport.com/review/7679/ati-radeon-x850-xt-graphics-cards

 

Not sure which of them were available in stores at the end of 2004 if any of them.

And even that is not a criterion, because we all know availability in different markets is different.

IMO they should be threated equally (Pro, XT and XTPE PCI-E versions) - either allow or disallow.

 

I would like clarification here, also. So I can know if I need to get a different card.

 

Could qx6700 be added to sc2 conroe?

[I.nfraR.ed]

Still no clear decision about 850Pro/XT/XT PE PCI-E and 9100(8500LE)/9000/9000Pro

Edited February 22, 2013 by I.nfraR.ed

[xsuperbgx]

.?.

[I.nfraR.ed]

Pieter, I know TeamCup is out of scope, since you are busy with the ProOC and it gets all the attention, but please,

can we ordinary overclockers get answers for the questions which were posted over and over again on the previous pages?

[xxbassplayerxx]

I'd recommending sending him a PM with a link to the post!

[I.nfraR.ed]

Wrote him on msn, let's hope we'll get answers soon.

Meanwhile, if someone has more free time maybe it's a good idea to summarize all unanswered questions in a single post.

Othewrise I'll do it when I get back home.

 

• 850Pro/XT/XT PE PCI-E | SC2 #3

  Article from Tom's hardware (2004) - http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ati...-x850,413.html
  Wikipedia (2005) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compar...on_R400_series
   
  TechReport tested both X850XT and XTPE on their review from Dec 1 2004 http://techreport.com/review/7679/at...graphics-cards
   
  Not sure which of them were available in stores at the end of 2004 if any of them.
  And even that is not a criterion, because we all know availability in different markets is different.
  IMO they should be threated equally (Pro, XT and XTPE PCI-E versions) - either allow or disallow.

  I think the Pro version was released first, bought one at launch.

• 9100(8500LE)/9000/9000Pro | SC2 #2

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R200
   
  ATI RADEON 8500LE Review
  By Vince Freeman March 11, 2002
  http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/videocards/article.php/989321/ATI-RADEON-8500LE-Review.htm
   
  Hercules 3D Prophet 8500 LE
  By Alexandra Krasne, Capsule Review
  May 22, 2002 1:00 AM
  http://www.pcworld.com/article/100783/article.html
   
  http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/Article.asp?datePublish=2002/12/26&pages=05&seq=21

• QX6700 | SC2 #4

  
  Could qx6700 be added to sc2 conroe?

• Prescott-256 (Celeron D) | SC2 #3

  Hi guys on SC2 #3 Prescott vs. Clawhammer Intel: All, except a few Pentiums. But can i use celereons? Prescott-256 (Celeron D) List of them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Celeron_microprocessors#.22Prescott-256.22_.2890_nm.29

Edited March 2, 2013 by I.nfraR.ed

[xsuperbgx]

Now that the other threads are being clarified and updated, how about this one?

[Massman]

Apoligies for the massive delay! Things ... well, you know.

 

Thanks for the list too, makes it a bit easier

 

850Pro/XT/XT PE PCI-E | SC2 #3

Article from Tom's hardware (2004) - http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ati...-x850,413.html

Wikipedia (2005) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compar...on_R400_series

 

TechReport tested both X850XT and XTPE on their review from Dec 1 2004 http://techreport.com/review/7679/at...graphics-cards

 

Not sure which of them were available in stores at the end of 2004 if any of them.

And even that is not a criterion, because we all know availability in different markets is different.

IMO they should be threated equally (Pro, XT and XTPE PCI-E versions) - either allow or disallow.

 

I think the Pro version was released first, bought one at launch.

 

The criterion is indeed release date, regardless of availability. I checked Wikipedia as main source, hence the mistake.

 

I've added all three cards to the competition now.

 

 

 

9100(8500LE)/9000/9000Pro | SC2 #2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R200

 

ATI RADEON 8500LE Review

By Vince Freeman March 11, 2002

http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/videocards/article.php/989321/ATI-RADEON-8500LE-Review.htm

 

Hercules 3D Prophet 8500 LE

By Alexandra Krasne, Capsule Review

May 22, 2002 1:00 AM

http://www.pcworld.com/article/100783/article.html

 

http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/Article.asp?datePublish=2002/12/26&pages=05&seq=21

 

You really want those cards added to the competition? They are not really that competitive, quite frankly.

 

QX6700 | SC2 #4

Could qx6700 be added to sc2 conroe?

 

Kentsfield was purposefuly left out in this stage as Conroe should be faster, but given that the QX6700 would be competitive as well it's a valid request.

 

Added.

 

Prescott-256 (Celeron D) | SC2 #3

Hi guys on SC2 #3 Prescott vs. Clawhammer Intel: All, except a few Pentiums. But can i use celereons? Prescott-256 (Celeron D) List of them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Celeron_microprocessors#.22Prescott-256.22_.2890_nm.29

 

No Celerons. The idea is to have the most high-end setups of the moment eligible for the competition. In case where we allow multiple architectures, it's because it's unclear what is the fastest architecture (AMD ... :-/).

[I.nfraR.ed]

 

You really want those cards added to the competition? They are not really that competitive, quite frankly.

 

No Celerons. The idea is to have the most high-end setups of the moment eligible for the competition. In case where we allow multiple architectures, it's because it's unclear what is the fastest architecture (AMD ... :-/).

 

Then why these are allowed in the same stage where the lower-end Radeons aren't?

 

GeForce4 MX 420 DDR 128bit, GeForce4 MX 420 DDR 64bit, GeForce4 MX 420 DDR 64bit-8x, GeForce4 MX 420 SDR, GeForce4 MX 440 DDR, GeForce4 MX 440 DDR 64bit, etc.

 

Heck, even the GF4 Titaniums are not competitive enough to beat the Radeon 9700

Why Radeon/Ati guys are left with so little options, when you allow very weak cards from Nvidia at the same time?

 

PS: thanks for the X850 cards, however already bought X850XT, but should have waited a little longer and buy XT PE instead

Quite frankly, I thought the chance you'd ever respond to this is very minimal.

Edited March 8, 2013 by I.nfraR.ed

[Snakefreak]

Hey Massman i dont understand your point i have made an result you can view here http://hwbot.org/submission/2368627_snakefreak_3dmark03_geforce_6800_gt_14030_marks

 

it can be rank 8 in the team cup. (and its air cooled) the system rank 1-7 are cooled with sub zero or have an amd card.

 

 

the clawhammer 512k is no other thing its a strpped clawhammer 1024 .

a celeron d presscott 256kb is the same on the intel side.

 

think they should be added to the list.

[GENiEBEN]

3DMark03 stage was cleaned...

[u22]

HWBOT Team Cup 2013 - SC3: Vantage Full-out -> GTX Titan is not allowed

HWBOT Team Cup 2013 - SC2: 3DMark03 Single GPU Historical Battle #7: 2012: -> GTX Titan is allowed?

 

Why?

 

GTX Titan in 2012 did not come out!

[Leeghoofd]

Give the crew time to moderate the latest submitted scores...

[gigioracing]

can i use a radeon 7000 ddr for the copppermine ? i havn t a 7200 ddr

[GENiEBEN]

Stage cleared, will validate them later.