First Haswell Valids

[xxbassplayerxx]

It's MSI. They're the only ones still doing POSCaps around the socket these days. They also do the white lines coming out from the socket and you can see the top of the chokes is blurred since they have the raised logos and lettering, which is also fairly unique to MSI.

 

Here's a close-up of the Z77A-GD65:

 

[sin0822]

i think everyone just assumes asus invent t-topology, while its actually intel spec and even on Z77 gigabyte had it since launch, asrock used it on the oc formula as well.

[Alex@ro]

that might be true,however gigabyte had it and had it for nothing since it took them 1 year to make their boards run decent with memory,and even still,up7 still is not on par with others...

[Massman]

T-branch was Intel design, but ASUS was the only ones doing optimisations to that design, no? At least, that's what I gathered from all the forums posts.

[marmott]

my bad then

[sin0822]

it was optional for Z77, so manufacturers could do it or not, but it was introduced too close to launch. I do think asus optimized it more of course, however it has its own downfalls as it isn't perfect and a reason haswell is also a bit different. Daisy chain has advantages for only single DIMM per channel operation in that a single slot with it should run better than a typical T configuration because the T works better with 4 DIMMs because of the way the traces are drawn and the route the signal needs to take. You shot something down a daisy chain and its a straight shot(for the mot part), however doing the T is a bit tricky, you hope the signal doesn't get interrupted because of that intersection. However in 4 DIMM operation you can the possibility of reinforcing the signal when both DIMMs are filled(on reason for instance the gigabyte Z77 boards usually had better 4 DIMM samsung OC than 2 DIMM samsung OC).

 

Also optimizing a BIOS for some boards that have it and some that doesn't is pretty hard as well(I think all of asus's had it). I mean if you take a UD5H right now and flash it with one of the latest BIOSes you will see it OCes memory very well, just there are no profiles or anything to help you out, but if you copy the timings from another brand, you might be surprised, it will OC better than it did half a year ago.

 

There was no doubt asus did an awesome job with it, but i don't like how they got everyone to think they designed basic routing design, i mean do they think no one ever int he world has thought about routing a trace like that? They just invented it? let's see a patent(b/c this is the type of thing you patent).

 

anyways end of my rant.

Edited May 12, 2013 by sin0822

[stasio]

CPU-Z 1.64.1

 

http://www.mediafire.com/?klmff5ne7yjl5fr

 

Supose to fix Haswell Vcore

[stasio]

CPU-Z 1.64.2

 

http://www.mediafire.com/?80twjuzhcoa8bmp

 

-Haswell Vcore reading

-update 20.May 2013

[sin0822]

damn CPUz really having so many issues with haswell vcore? lol I mean shouldn't the vcore reading be pretty much standard across everyone b/c of the iVR?

[CL3P20]

still showing same on Maxpower as previous.. cant imagine what has been causing all of the different readings from one manufacturer to the next.. though same CPU needs different vcore and SVID in different branded mobo too.. so, go figure.

[Splave]

Reading fine here