Bones

Yeah! The fault is all on those sorry assed, lying, cheating Extreme classed LN2 slinging bastards...... ?

I'm hoping to pull some half-decent runs out of my own ass tomorrow with AM3+. Gotta go get what I need and just do it.

Create a support ticket/thread about the issue here: https://community.hwbot.org/forum/26-support/ Most likely a database error but sub the report with details about your system anyway, if there is a problem they'll get to it but do be patient - May take awhile but they will get to it sooner or later and let you know what goes.

Strong result! ?

Good to see you tinkering again Chew, I need to start up again myself and see what I can come up with across a few sockets.

From personal experience I've ran into some of this myself before, just seems to me alot of the new guys I've spoken with before have an attitude they want to press a button and have instant WR results, it just doesn't work that way. Instead of working for what you get they want it E-Z-P-Z and all of it served up to them on a silver platter..... Then wonder "Why" their results are far short of what the rest of us have been doing. Like most here I too put in the work and earned what I got and it wasn't an easy thing to do, takes time and dedication to even start to approach what could be called a "Good" result vs the rest. Learning how it all works and the effects tweaks have is a big part of it but instead the mentality of the ones I've conversed with are more like they want it and want it now, in a few cases for me to just hand over my tweaks or even tweak and OC their system for them - I'm not gonna do that. I mean there is nothing wrong with asking for some advice because we've all been there before but to outright do it all for them? Hell no. It's also true the pricetag to do this has only gotten higher, not cheaper and that does put off alot of the potential new guys BUT if they are truly wanting to do it and succeed they should be aware of that going in anyway - Not to mention the price to play itself even if already involved isn't getting any cheaper itself. Fasttrack also made some good points too about it, like anything else there more than one side to a story with real world implications. Just how it is.

Only simple solution would be to disallow any unlocking of anything - Which is to say either it's a true Deneb by name or it's not. Personally I'd love to run my 555 BE but by just saying no unlocking allowed would make things alot easier to know and resolve any "Can I use this" questions, would also make moderation alot easier too since the line of what is and isn't allowed is readily defined that way.

Largely the same with a Callisto core which is a Deneb with two cores disabled. I know it's a mess with all the different variations in play, if I'm not mistaken even an older Heka core unlocked is a first gen Deneb too so...... There ya go. Better to go ahead and mention such now while it's still early in the game.

Background? Just an idea.

+1 to the above. This doesn't need to disappear, instead it could be stickied so the next time it starts up (And it will sooner or later) you can just find the thread and "Point" to it as warning to whomever.

Alby just needs to do what's best for Alby, plain and simple.

All I can say is Leeg has been nothing but fantastic in my experience. If he zapped an entry I made it was with good reason and I know he got a few of them but I didn't complain because I knew there had to be something to it and in every case there was. I'm sorry to see him go if he really decides to but to those that didn't like him there is one thing to remember - If you had a problem with Leeg and didn't like him for whatever reason that's fine because that's you, not my problem or really my business TBF about it. All I can hope for is the next mod that comes along doesn't give you even more reason to be pissed off, sometimes the one you know now is far better than the one you'll meet later.

I understand where Miller is coming from, things are changing with time and that's natural of course. However with the investment the older guys have in all the hardware they've accumilated over the years it doesn't make sense to kill that off either. I do however agree restrictions could be a little "Looser" so more can participate but that call is not mine to make. I disagree in killing off the legacy part of the bot, If something were to happen such as a Legacy comp, division or whatever form it takes - I'm fine with it but I do understand "Why" Miller is thinking this because the newer stuff is here and it always will be, like it or not and it must be accounted for too. Miller is right about one thing, thinking of the newer guys is important if we want this hobby to continue or it becomes something that just fades away with time. Maybe promoting the site and what we do might work, if we can get just one out of a thousand that comes here browsing to at least try it, that would be better than how it is currently from the looks of it. I've noted even now how many are still running/subbing for XTU and it's mostly the new guys doing it and that's fine, once they get in the door they'll see there's more to it than XTU alone - I certainly hope so and we'd need to help them see what it's really all about.

Leeg did say to let the hatred flow..... And I did with my suggestion which, BTW is just that and no more. And wadda ya mean Team Comp? That's already done for the year. ?

Had an idea come to mind. How about a Socket A stage with a restriction of no NF2 chipset boards used? Can be any bench you'd like ran and that would make the stage a real challenge to say the least of it.

I spy a spammer setting up shop........ Entry is almost 4 years old.

Now here's an idea for a comp..... Who can serve it up the fastest! https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/finally-a-test-that-settles-intel-being-better-then-amd.259767/ Be sure to wear your aprons and hairnets when benching. ?

Didn't care for all the dogpile stages myself. It's really not a bad thing, just so much of it going on.

Intel finally has an answer to Ryzen/Epyc..... ?

There he goes again...... ?

Actually versions up to 1.59 work fine, it's the changes made from that to version 1.60 and up that's the problem. However some A systems will run it fine, some won't and most of mine have issues with it too.

Thanks guys. Yes it does have some headroom to work with and I will get around to finding out how much one of these days.

Thanks man! I took a few pics of it for reference while it was running cold. I'll be more than happy to add a pic to it. EDIT: Setup pic added.

Very nice!

Thanks guys. ?