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It's Windsor-F2, not F3.

Meaningful MSRs on AMD usually start from C0000xxx, C0010xxx and C0011xxx. DCT0 is bus0/dev0/func2 registers from 040 to 04C, DCT1 is 140 to 14C Low timing registers are F2x[1,0 ]88 and high timing registers are 8C. There are also 90 to A0. You would probably need to set DCT0 only and it will sync to DCT1. Not sure if any of those would be helpful, since it requires studying the BKDG for family 11h 10h and I guess most things are already covered by MemSet and bios. But it possible to have something that is not exposed and can be tightened further, especially the NB registers. I am currently busy with Ryzen, but might play with K8 later. PS: I was looking at 11h, 0Fh is a little different, but addresses should be similar.

Very nice! DFI is not the most efficient board out there. For example, 790X-UD3P is faster. Interested to know how much have you gained with manual registers tweak (if you have used any).

Definitely a very good one! It's not that easy to get this Mem frequency together with the core clock on the FSB limit. You have a good CPU, great sub!

@GRIFF AN7: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0ByfNThxT1gbTVFR5R3RrVXNRRFE NF7-S: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0ByfNThxT1gbTaTFYTUg1a3p6VFk?usp=sharing They are nothing special, just based on the latest official bioses available for both boards and made from scratch with some personal tests of different ROMSIP tables. I've chosen the tables that worked best for me in terms of performance and highest FSB, but this doesn't mean it is the best possible combination. They won't magically clock the FSB 10MHz higher compared to e.g. Merlin's bios Ah, maybe some of you don't know, but I will share a trick I'm using with socket A and was keeping for myself all these years. I guess many of you might know it, but... change the CPU to Standard PC to gain stability with high FSB/voltage.

Mine had CB around -100. Good CPUs should go higher in frequency, but need external PLL - this is one of the many projects I have on hold. BTW, some people might experience motherboard CB. PS: I also remember higher the voltage, more unstable it gets, so usually lower voltage is required on cold, however I don't have enough empirical data to confirm it 100%.

Tell me about it I've experimented with some registers and there's a positive effect in Pi performance, but I'm far for completing this research, since there is no public BKDG for family 17h I was able to gain 3 seconds at 4GHz fixed frequency. I'm also working on providing frequency and VID control for Zen2 in ZenStates app. Have a partial success and this is what commands I have found so far by trial and error. Setting P-State MSRs just doesn't work, so sending commands to the SMU seems to be the only option right now. ID Name Note 0x1 TestMessage 0x2 GetSmuVersion 0x24 EnableOverclocking Forces base clock and manual overclock mode. 0x25 DisableOverclocking 0x26 SetOverclockFreqAllCore Sets all core frequency, EnableOverclocking first. 0x27 SetOverclockFreqPerCore Always sets core #0, probably needs additional parameters. EnableOverclocking first. 0x28 SetOverclockVid Alters the VID (in HEX). EnableOverclocking first. 0x29 SetBoostLimitFreqAllCores Probably sets fmax 0x2B ? Sets maximum boost frequency 0x2C GetOverclockCap ? 0x2F ? With multi manually set to 40x, sets the multi to 39.50x

Better use removememory, so you can easily alter it once set, because with maxmem, if you want to increase it, it is required to first remove it, reboot and then set it. However, if you are running high voltages already, resetting it to full 16GB will BSOD on reboot and will have to load another profile with lower voltages just to set a higher maxmem. In CMD bcdedit /set {current} removememory 12345 where 12345 is the amount of megabytes you want to remove/hide. To delete it bcdedit /deletevalue removememory I usually use 4-5GB when running multicore benches. Keep in mind that too low available memory can lead to bugged scores, e.g. in Cinebench20, Geekbench... PS: Also don't remove all memory, you won't boot then.

You did a good job! I'm currently on my 5-th Windows 7 installation and sitting at 8:24.xxx. Whatever I "tweak" it makes it slower and slower. Exactly the same situation before 2 years with Zen1, but I don't remember how I made it faster for this 8:17.xxx run. Should have saved the OS image or write down all the changes :(. I must have found something back then which I don't remember. PS: First few loops of "untweaked" 7 are faster than XP (even faster than what you have on that SS), but then it slows down. Then I start "tweaking" and even these first loops get slower.

I still have the mod files somewhere, but it was some time ago, so I will have to re-learn everything if I want to mod another bios. The bios should have the usual romsip tables, bpl and soft L12 mods, plus updated SATA controller firmware. They are based on the final bios for AN7. This seems to be the best result I have with this motherboard: https://hwbot.org/submission/2940297_i.nfrar.ed_superpi___1m_athlon_xp_2500_(barton)_33sec_328ms Bioses for NF7-S v2 shared as well: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0ByfNThxT1gbTaTFYTUg1a3p6VFk

Some more https://hwbot.org/submission/4211718_i.nfrar.ed_superpi___32m_ryzen_5_3600_7min_26sec_359ms Guess I will have to try Win7 again. XP doesn't seem that fast.

I prefer my own bios mods https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0ByfNThxT1gbTVFR5R3RrVXNRRFE?usp=sharing https://valid.x86.fr/v1d1b2

Everything is in the winraid forum, however I had to install it on Asrock K4 board with PS2 first, then make an autohotkey script to run at startup and "click" the Next button on "Found New Hardware" windows for me to install the drivers when moved to Crosshair VI Hero ? As for installation - I use a custom firadisk image and load the ISO from USB drive. XP partition on the SSD formatted and aligned to 4096 from Windows 7, then skip the formatting from XP install. Then use the top USB slots closest to bios reset button. Can't find a working txt-mode driver for the stupid via usb controller card. PS: Not going to share my Nlited image though, since it's my bench XP and I don't feel sharing it outside the team ?

Great CPU :)

Received the bundle. Thanks.

I think XP will be faster in the end (not by much, though), but it took me several hours to get it to this state on the Crosshair VI Hero. ACPI and USB 3.2 work. Perhaps we need XP64 for this generation of CPUs. Anyway, will still test it and see if 1800X is faster. Maybe the low write speeds of the 3600 is hindering the performance. The difference between 3600 and 3800 memory/if clock isn't that great and 3600 tighter timings might get it even closer. PS: Wouldn't 4000-4133 CAS12 be a better choice with IF at 1400-1500 (whatever is possible on LN2)? 4000C12 tight was damn easy, haven't tried higher.

First test with XP ACPI. Seems faster, but gradually looses time after loop 10-12 and couldn't beat my previous score with 1800X. Will pop it in later and compare with my old 8.17.xxx score. Timings and other bios options not optimized for sure. Also working on SuperPi perf bias which looked promising from the first test.

YES! Brilliant work. Big THANK YOU!

Yes, I know about 1st gen, but was unaware that 2nd gen doesn't have this problem.

Yes, I think so, too. On Zen 1st and 2nd gen, higher memory clock should be better on ambient, since the fclk is tied to it. 3600+ with CAS 11 or 12 should be faster. My 1800X could do even 3800C12, but as soon as I cool it down (even on chiller) the max mem clock goes down, as you already know. So maybe he's pretesting clocks which should work on LN2.

Sorry if it had been reported before. Did some runs with Ryzen 5 3600 yesterday and submitted to the respective categories on the bot (xxx with benchmate). Submitted mostly from the app, then I had to go to the website and fill in CPU name and cooling, then all was good. One bug I've noticed is the CB20 priority is set to "Below Normal", even though I've selected "Realtime". Seems to work for other Cinebenches. Had to set it manually via Task Manager. PS: Benchmate 0.8.1 on Win10 x64

Works for me now too. Thanks!

Not bad for a first session. Livestream and chat is distracting for sure. I expected a little more from this chip, honestly. No voltage scaling?

I have updated the ZenStates app (fork of elmor's app) with Matisse support: https://github.com/irusanov/ZenStates/releases AFAIK elmor doesn't work for Asus anymore and is not maintaining it, so I've made my own version. You can see the commits on the linked repo. The difference is that there's no vendor check, so it should work on all motherboards from all vendors, plus the added Zen2 support. I've tested it on Asrock B350 K4 and verified it works. If it works on Zen2 too, then it might help in benchmark scores a little. As always, USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! I don't have a Zen2 CPU to try it myself, all I did is add the CPUIDs. You can see the gains on my local hw forum I use: https://hardwarebg.com/forum/showthread.php/273143-AMD-RYZEN-CPU-(AM4)-2017-г?p=4983653&viewfull=1#post4983653 This is with the first version without Matisse support. For the latest release, check the github link. PS: I'm a web developer, so this is not my field of programming. Don't expect new features or easy/quick fix of existing bugs (if any). I will try to do my best supporting it, however, if there's someone else with more experience, feel free to fork it or submit merge requests. Edit // Original thread: https://www.overclock.net/forum/13-amd-general/1684897-asus-zenstates-17.html All credits go to elmor (Jon Sandström) and ASUS.

Ordered the full bundle the moment Allen posted it on fb :D Shipping is from Taiwan, right? Hopefully won't be stopped at the customs, hate to go there with all the bureaucracy and time lost...