Alex@ro

Up for sale are a few kits that i have no use for, have better kits at the moment. Currently trying to put some money together to have fun with a high-end gpu. #1 Retail HyperX Predator DDR4-4266C19 Based on b-die, they use a slight different layout compared to other vendors which interestingly makes them very easy to bench especially on AM4 Ryzen Cpu's. To put things in perspective, if using a regular A2 kit you get 3 succesfull attempts of training from 5 tries, these will boot and train 5 out of 5. They do love cold,-50 is rock stable with solid results. Using z490 all air 4800 C14 is good to go with 2.02V. With cold cpu i had seen 4933 C14 with 2.13V but 5000 was not stable for geekbench eventhoug they can take 2.25V for breakfast On Am4 the voltage requirement is the same however i did 5000C14 but not screened it anywhere, 5100 also did boot but didn't find stability. The only screen i got is 4933 14 13 13 from this submission: https://hwbot.org/submission/4345583_alex_ro_geekbench3___multi_core_ryzen_9_3900x_80642_points #2 Galax A0 DDR4-4000C19 B-die as well, old layout, sample but retail spd. Very easy to bench on Z270, Z370, Z390, no adjustment on VTT needed. Will do 4190 12-11 32M with 1.98V looping on ambient temp, 4240 12 11 geekbench. Never tried slight negative temps however 4200 should not be hard at all. For example on ambient 4220 stops at loop 7.... This is my second best kit of A0 that i have, best one will do 4240-4260 C12 32M #3 G.skill world cup 2019 sticks A2 pcb, B-die with A2 layout. Together they do 4800C14 with under 2V on ambient, didn't push because the other two sticks are better and only benched those. Sample from 2019 World cup. Prices: 200E for each kit. If one buys all we have a deal at 550E + shipping. Payment via paypal or revolut, buyer covers taxes or sends as friends. Will assist the buyer in case he has issues in getting the results i mentioned. This is a private sale so no warranty on long term, i guarantee the sticks are working and doing what i wrote.

Please do test, unless we have a specific and tried situation we cannot ask Asus to fix if we don't know for sure it's an issue....

I think that's your cpu to blame, i had cpu's that did the same as you describred, and others worked fullpot flawless, did you test the cpu on other board to see if it's specifically board issue or cpu behaviour?

Oh wait, did i say something against what you wrote? I don't think so. No need to do censorship, you will piss more people than you will please. What, is it wrong to know the history in order not to repeat mistakes? I don't think so. And no, i was not referring to last years, i am reffering to the good years, when every vendor supported hwbot, when intel had xtu development with hwbot, there were lots of competitions etc etc. Those were good times and good money wasted as well. And stop promoting that catasthrope of World Tour, you know better than before that at Msi Moa, Gigabyte Gooc there were regional qualifiers and the finals provided big opportunities for people from less rich countries such as Eastern Europe for example to go to places around the world where they could not afford to travel. I was way younger back then and i did not have any hope of ln2 but i watched from the side and i know the history. Here we go, Hwbot World Tour was a disaster that should never ever happen again. I also appreciate your work for free basically, and many other people that did the same , don't get me wrong, this intrigues me as well since there were people sacrificing their time and money for hwbot to develop and at the same time there were the scammers that i mentioned (and somehow you kind of have a fetish for) that got a lot of benefits while not helping at all. Anyway, as i said i really hope hwbot under new owners will survive and thrive.

I have something to say as well. The fact that the website has new owners is indeed amazing. However we can see some issues with the patreon funding meaning people are not actually eager to support with their money the new initiative. That being said i talked with a few people and basically no one is eager to fund hwbot because of the past issues. There were years in the past when hwbot was a money-machine making hundreds of thousands of dollars per year. Yes, you read that correct, xxxxxx $ per year. Massman was a youngster back then and he was tricked by a few scammers. I am of course reffering to infamous Oxxxxxxxxg-Tv and also TxxxxxxPR. Long story short the scammers at Oxxxxxxxxxxxv spent a lot of money for equipment which they kept and also to fly their asses around the world. Yes, overclockers even paid fee for entering contests which was not previously seen on any contest before. TxxxxxxPr also were given a big chunk of money for issuing press releases and other mino stuff. Now, in order to regain the trust, at least from my side and point of view it would be a good thing for the new owners to bann these scammers and whatever is related to them from now on. Basically naming them persona non grata for what they did and how they took advantage of money which they did not deserve at all. They are world-class scammers, they photoshopped reports and lied many times about their audience and such, they even thought of representing elite overclockers as agents and take a share of prizes won by people that they would represent. *As a note, pay atention mister Txxxxxxx if you are going to threaten me once again with court or whatever, i am going to post pictures of your real audience versus what you claimed , your draft of contract of wannabe agent, etc. Secondly, i think vendors would still support this website with the right approach. Eventhough they were burned once by the old management , with the right approach maybe Roman can solve things up. I hope... All in all i really hope hwbot will survive and evolve, it is a shame how things went wrong on the way, so many mistakes and too many scammers involved, the oc-esports site which is good for nothing, money spent for anything than supporting overclockers, useless world-tour with huge expenses and extremely-low audience, etc etc. One can only hope that hwbot will survive and also the coronavirus will finally end someday rather sooner than later.

How is patreon supporting different than buying the software? If the ones that donate have acces to newer and improved version i fail to see which is which. And of course i will be the last one to donate to this pile of crap. Sorry to be fanatic against it however for the dozens of hours that this crap made me loose for nothing, literally nothing i won't forget that easily. It was not enough dealing with windows, different benchmark bugs and instability due to pushing things to their limit, NOO, another layer of troubles had to come on top of those with it's different bugs and issues. Thanks but no thanks, obviously if i will use this it is because it will probably be mandatory in the end ( same as coronavirus vaccine) not because i love this bad coding piece of software.

Btw, competition points are no longer counted on career ranking or it's just one of the neverending bugs? I had the impression that top 10 competition results are taken into consideration on career ranking... I mean i can't see my gskill lor galax or whatever online competition i won anywhere...?

Great, i don't even know how to set 1900 fclk on cold xD =))

Yes, FCLK 100%. I had also seen a cpu that simply ran fullpot only for ...5 minutes or something like that then never again. Air is same but fullpot is simply not possible. Anyways, thank you AMD for the I/O die being made on the cheap 14nm and creating these issues on cold. @rbuass When are you trying to apply timings and freq? Easiest way. Go -40 -50 , load ln2 profile, apply, keep the temp, then apply your ram timings and such, get things working then cool down. You might or may not experience restarts on the way to fullpot , this again depends on the chip itself, i had chips doing two restarts on the path to fullpot while i had a chips that i accidentaly loaded ln2 profile , went into windows and cooled all the way from +25 to fullpot and everything worked. To conclude, 5xxx series has same cold issues as 3xxx series except the fact that by results the 6 core and 8 core do higher flck while cold. The 12 and 16 core is a gamble on cold again, some cpu's will simply not work fullpot no matter your ram speed or infinity fabric clock or bios or board or whatever.

Well i was saying 7 ghz in order to have a chance at WR Great score so far, keep pushing, isn't 4800c14 faster than 3200 c10?

AMD being better clock per clock than intel, surely feels like Athlon4 times. If only they did 7 ghz for single-thread....

Unless working for cpu manufacturer, all good.

Best on bot? In what way? not having it tested on ln2 makes it...i don't know, probably 150E-200E. IF you put this on ln2 and it breaks multipe records for 3770K category i guess you can have 500-700E out of it from a hardware points collector.

So you are saying hwbot has been bought and paid but still the buyers cannot make use of their purchase? This guy Frederika cares a lot about the community as we can see....

very slow bios updates? Well not sure if you checked ch8 page but there is a new bios every 2 weeks. However you have to remember that here on hwbot and in general overclockers couldn't are less about fan control, it is usually disabled with fan's at maximum speed possible

Ln2 mode on amd does not give you high temperatures so in my point of view you are good to go, used it for days and never had a issues with my cpu's....

Well the ideas are awesome however practice will kill us. Just imagine bugs from those benchmarks coupled with the mighty-problem-causing-good-for nothing benchmate , just imagine the amazing experience and fun you will have debugging that.

Well i offered a brand new 3950X for that 2500K that the serbian guys hit 6300+ and i got refused ( turns out even if you want to be a goose you still have bad luck ).

Your screen showed oem samsung sticks, now you say a2 g.skill pcb....

It is not a theory though I had same situations in past with 7700K 8700K 9900K. Also with a pretested cpu that i sold, i could run full pot all day long without any cb or cbb, arrives to buyer, cb at -160. After properly cleaning pads and socket buyers was happy. I am not saying that it is impossible for cpu's to not run full pot just that you have to have clean socket and cpu and mount/remount on different boards, if still no go then yes... cpu hates cold and that's it.

I would clean the socket with wd40 contact cleaner, spray a lot of it then with dry with hot air, repeat 2-3 times, clean the pads on the back of the cpu as well. Had this with a buyer of one cpu i sold, he couldn't go full-pot and cleaning did the job.

Who said that i don't pretest on air? You can imagine i do , i buy ln2 for 2$ per liter so it is not cheap to bench sub-zero. That's exactly my issue, that i pretest and all works , go ln2 and after a few crashes i have to have a new os. And yes i have image lol, thing is with damn ryzens you need to go higher on temp and be very safe otherwise image corruption has a high probability. No, i don't mix bench-mate versions anymore. The thing is that i started clean, exactly fresh version of window and bench mate 10.5 . It worked, then it didn't. Then i put new os with same bench mate , didn't ran. Download new version, didn't work. New os plus new version works. After few crashes here we go again. And to be honest you are overdoing it. I mean how many people can temper with benchmarks the way you think they do? As far as i know so far we had few scammers but most of the issues were photoshop related. And those who altered anything else were caught by the sharp eye of the optician- Splave So i am sorry, i don't have the time to search and think for cheating solution, i want to actually bench and enjoy the process not getting stuck by whatever bug of a over-zealous programmer. Let me be clear. I respect your work in the way that it's free and you are trying to improve things in order to be cheat-secure. That's awesome! However when you impose things, like bench mate mandatory for certain platforms and your app creates issues, you know what to expect. Ryzen3 sub-zero issues, b-die issues and on top of that bench-mate having issues, oh boy, hell of a benching experience....NOT.

This software is junk with capital letters. I know this sounds harsh but it is major failure in my point of view. First of all i want to say that i am giving away 100$ cash for anyone that can remove this from internet or at least take the website down for at least a week. Secondly, this made me consider retiring from benchmarking for the first time in 12 years, unbeliavable. Not even ryzen on cold, not even B-die benching, not even cracks when full-pot, nothing did the job except the amazing bench-banana-mate. It makes absolutely no joy to bench anymore with this application. Yeah, everything is nice and dandy, unicorns are pink and gooses are flying until this software will simply not work. And for the worst, you cannot debug anything at it, it works or doesn't you don't know why or how to replicate the issues. Example, let alone the fact that if you are trying to run two versions on the same system for example 0.10.5 or 0.9.3 (for geekbench) you will have only issues. Which is weird because they are standalone, you won't install them competing for same registry or cache or whatever. Benchind amd ryzen 3 on windows 10, clean os, working benchmate. Few restarts and nothing works. Benchmate will start but no benchmarks will load, will be stuck at loading. Of course the benchmarks run if you start them on their own. So, i reinstall os and try again. Nope. Meanwhile i tried cleaning cache, temp files, prefetch, whatever , no go. I download a clean benchmate and try it, not working. Final solution, new operating system with clean benchmate, finally it works. Also i had many crashes from memory when geekebcnh was nice and stable. How come, i mean benchmate is harsher than geekbench or what? Why do i have to do this? Why do i have to waste time and ln2 and etc for running a software on top of my benchmarks? In my experience over time i found that eventually you can find answers to most common issues with benchmarks. Google it, this forum, ask a fellow overclocker, eventually you know what to do. But with benchmate, you are left blind and dumb, both at the same time. My ranting stops here, i would rather pay for supporting hwbot, hire a full-time guy to check for cheaters and everything rather than use this junk. It gives issues most of the times, when nothing works you don't know what to do to fix it. While the idea is great, i hate cheaters and i would send them to guilotine, the execution leaves a lot to be desired. Sorry, i would rather hope that the developer can fix the issues by being annoyed at my post rather than praise the software when it doesn't work.

i would also set level 0 bandwith

Weird, you praised TeamGroup like there is no tomorrow on facebook, now you need better memory.