Massman

Hey guys, 1) Yes, there will be time before the 4th to get ready 2) CPUs can be delided, but we only use @der8auer's tool so we know it's safe. Afterwards we will re-glue the IHS so make sure to keep it 3) The Operating System will be Windows 10

What's this, Kingpin running 2D ?!

Oops, fixed

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A quick Google search resulted in an FTP with the following BIOSes: Index of /upload/Bios - Z17EF421.BST - Z17EF523.BST - Z17EFB01.BST (no longer listed) - Z17EFC16.BST If you're flashing back, also check the microcode.

As always, @websmile is correct. It's fixed now

Just FYI, there is a new version out v6.2.0.19 which addresses the benchmark issues

When are you guys flying in? If you fly in before new years flights should be lots cheaper. Also, you can try flying to LA and taking a car to Vegas. Hotel wise, off strip will be cheaper (but further away from the venue)

Just FYI, you don't need to plan on bringing CPUs. Or boards.

Sorry, miscommunication. X99 is allowed, but Titans are not.

Biostar had HyperOC, which enabled non-k overclocking. But I guess it's been blocked in BIOS updates after February 2016

Hey Guys, I'm sure you are all excited to find out more about the World Tour 2017 plan. While we are still working hard to finalize the plan for next year, one event you can put in your agenda: CES 2017. We are planning for a special activity the day prior to the kick-off at CES which runs from January 5 until January 8. On the 5th and 6th we will be at the GIGABYTE suite for the World Tour gathering and first stop of the World Series competition. We are working around the clock to get all the information and pages up and running. I hope we'll get the ticketing/reservation pages up and running by early next week. If you don't know what to do yet in the first week of January, I'd say Las Vegas will be a great spot for overclocking *wink*. I'll update the thread once I have more information. :celebration: :celebration: :celebration:

I clarified the 2011-3 on the stage page. It was already ruled out on the Rules tab Hardware: Must use commercially / retail available components. Engineering samples are not allowed. No server hardware. We reserve the right to ban specific products Participants can only use ASUS Motherboards Both Intel’s and AMD’s motherboards are allowed X99 motherboards are not allowed Nvidia Titan X (Pascal) not allowed No brand limitation for graphics card Edit: X99 allowed

Nice!

Just got an email with a comparison and it seems so. Can anyone verify it? I just tore down our X99 test system

I can't believe they still have FX8300 on there

Yes. In fact, it will be available soon on the website

Updated the list of webshops carrying the BC1 (see opening post)

Updated statistics: Skylake Statistics 108828 overclocking results 10440 overclockers [table=head]{colsp=2}Hardware Statistics Top-5 Motherboard Brands | ASUS, MSI, GIGABYTE, ASRock, Clevo Top-5 Mainboards (users) | ASUS Maximus VIII Hero, ASUS Z170-A, GIGABYTE Z170X-Gaming 7, MSI Z170A Gaming M5, MSI Z170A Gaming M7 Top-5 Mainboards (submissions) | ASUS Maximus VIII Hero, ASUS Maximus VIII Gene, ASRock Z170 OC Formula, ASUS Z170-A, GIGABYTE Z170X-Gaming 7 Top-5 Memory Brand (users) | G.SKILL, Corsair, Kingston/HyperX, Samsung, Crucial Top-5 CPU SKU | Core i7 6700K, Core i5 6600K, Core i3 6320, Core i7 6700HQ, Core i5 6500 Top-5 CPU Cooling | Water cooling (25.76%), AIO Water (25.17%), Liquid Nitrogen (13.64%), Air cooling (12.68%), Phase Change (7.13%)[/table] [table=head]{colsp=2}Community Statistics Most Active User | Traktor, 1424 submissions Most Active Team | Team Hardware-Reaktor-Reloaded, 2232 submissions Most Active Country | United States, 15931 submissions Highest Variety CPUs by User | StingerYar, 12 CPUs Highest Variety CPUs by Team | Overclockers.UA, 18 CPUs Highest Variety CPUs by Country | United States, 40 CPUs Highest Variety Motherboards by User | acm_fan, 25 motherboards Highest Variety Motherboards by Team | Overclockers.UA, 42 motherboards Highest Variety Motherboards by Country | United States, 293 motherboards[/table]

Some leaks appearing Sources: SemiAccurate Forums - View Single Post - Official AMD Zen uarchitecture thread SemiAccurate Forums - View Single Post - Official AMD Zen uarchitecture thread Carbonite.co.za - Free South African Tech Classifieds Notes: There are some errata issues present in the current testing samples, similar in a way to the TLB bug of the Phenom. The workaround right now is done via the BIOS. The workaround however, strips around 30 ~ 40% of the CPU performance. The CPUs are well behind schedule and every day there's real progress and bug fixing being done. Unlike with INTEL's E0 CPUs which make it to the wild that are almost completely final silicon. AMD's samples will continue to get bug fixes right up until retail spec sampling to partners. In August Clock speeds were 3.8GHz, right now 4.2GHz overclocking is possible, with LN2 5GHz is doable. Again this will change of course, but it is just the current silicon that is behaving like this. AM4/ZEN uses an SOC design, that means even CMOS/BIOS configuration is on package (not necessarily on silicon, I can't confirm this) so it is possible to clear the "BIOS" and still have old value applied 30 minutes later. How this will be addressed remains to be seen. Perhaps it won't be the same scenario for final silicon Operating voltages (nominal) are 1.3v and all the way up to 1.5v should be fine it seems for AIO cooling. Frequency scaling isn't a strong point but again that may have everything to do with the process at this point rather than an inherent design limitation. Performance is particularly strong at this point vs. INTEL's latest offerings. Single thread performance is matching Haswell-E and of course multi-threading performance as well. Tests that are memory bandwidth dependent may go to the INTEL platform simply as a result of having more memory channels, but I can't confirm that right now and have no info on that. The important thing here is that the 16Thread/8-Core CPU is minimum 5960X performance if not better actually. (Based on Cinebench R15) with the error fix disabled. Can't speak to how well the IMC is working as current samples are locked to low DRAM frequencies (2133MHz and lower) and of course this has an impact on performance. As stated in the beginning, every week is progress and AMD is working at an unprecedented rate to get these ready by March. You're unlikely to see any high end boards for the CPUs prior to launch or at launch, simply because no vendors can commit to too much right now as plenty is changing at a rapid rate. All overclocking is done via Overdrive, you can't change any performance features at all in the BIOS (on to that next) at all. BIOS or UEFI is actually built into the CPU, so only AMD can update the "BIOS" or microcode. All overclocking must take place within the Operating system Right now it takes up to 30 minutes to clear the BIOS. If you remove the CPU and place it on another motherboard, it'll have the same settings applied as on the previous board. So debugging is a nightmare 6850K SKU (May not be final designation) is wait for it.... $300 roughly. That's 8 Cores and 16 Threads AMD's Hyper Threading is called SMU and it is ************ good. The same efficiency as Intel's HT. Performance is really good, be it SuperPi, Cinebench, 3DMark etc, it's FPU performance is incredibly good and easily matching that of what Intel offers. Current performance is staggering even though it is limited to 2133MHz (as mentioned before) and NorthBridge Frequency is limited to 2400MHz There will be a nigher SKU than the 6850K, but it is a higher bin so it will certainly overclock better than 6850K and that may carry a premium price, but unlikely to be double. There's plenty of excitement from all board vendors about the platform, so we will see how it all pans out. (Especially with the hot mess that INTEL has in store for us H2 2017, that we can leave to another thread) For Gaming, the CPU is neck and neck with INTEL, even at low res where CPU bound. Not all is correct, but the important stuff seems relatively accurate

New version: https://hwbotdownloads.s3.amazonaws.com/downloads/benchmarks/Intel%20XTU/XTU-Setup_6.2.0.19.exe (not sure if that one has the benchmark fix included already)

Issue was identified, fix on the way ...