Massman Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) Wallpaper available now: http://news.hwbot.org/Competitions/1206-1210_OldSchoolBestSchool/OSiBS5_Wallpaper_1080.jpg Edited August 4, 2015 by Massman Quote
Marquzz Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 Is SuperPi 1.1 allowed (if enter result as x.999) so that we can use win9x? Quote
Administrators websmile Posted September 1, 2015 Administrators Posted September 1, 2015 Please stay within rules for spi, 1,5 and 1,6 allowed, sorry to annoy you but results might be integrated in general hwbot ranking so rules apply Quote
Marquzz Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 I simply cannot run 32M on my Socket 3 system. 1M works just fine, but I always get "Not exact in round" just around the initial value is finished. My system have 80MB ram, running WinNT and 200 MB page file. Any help would be appricieted. But maybe no one has succeded? Quote
Marquzz Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 Managed to solve the first problem and it was just a matter of disk space. Added another harddrive and ran SuperPi from that one. Unfortunatly Dr.Watson pops upp and throws an exception just before SuperPi is finished. I haven't seen live what exactly happens since the round finishes either when I'm at work or at night, but my guess is that there is some problem when SuperPi is doing the last stuff, writing to file and what not. Â Has anyone managed to run a 32M SPi? Anything below is just fine, 16k-8M, but 32M just wont work. Quote
Administrators websmile Posted September 26, 2015 Administrators Posted September 26, 2015 Unfortunately I have no system to test this myself, but I saw zero submissions - what is even more interesting, I did not find a single spi32m submission at any socket 3 cpu at database, so make your own thoughts about this... Quote
mr.paco Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 I've tryed all types of settings. various chips, OC, Low Clock, stock, more ram, less ram etc etc. Just wont finish  Will be very interesting to see if any one can actually pull it off... Quote
max1024 Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 I think to run Pi32 on Sock3 is possible, but very hard. I have tried 3 different cpu, and have a crash on 2-d day of calculating. Disk space in enough. I Think may be there is a lack of RAM and Super pi going to be closed. http://itmages.ru/image/view/2918638/4eeb227f Quote
Marquzz Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 I have one running atm, but it will not be finished in time. No big difference really, just trying NTFS instead of FAT16. Â I think as someone mentioned in another thread that maybe Win2k works better if you can get it to run on Socket 3. Parhaps a Pentium Overdrive will do the trick? Looked at some on ebay when this stage was announced, but they were a bit on the expensive side. Quote
zaraquer Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Its possible to run Pi32, you just need 128Mb memory, NTFS, windows2k and ofc patience. Quote
mr.paco Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Its possible to run Pi32, you just need 128Mb memory, NTFS, windows2k and ofc patience. Had 128mb ram, Windows2000, NTFS. Still no go. Even tryed the OS 1st-drive, PageFile 2nd-drive, SP 3rd-drive. I'm someone will eventually figure out how. Quote
Marquzz Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Seems like a lot of combinations have been tested, but no Pentium overdrive. Another idea is to test with an external IDE controller Quote
Administrators websmile Posted September 30, 2015 Administrators Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) As said, I was unable to find any result for this at database, but who knows, maybe it is possible - checked the 3d stage, for me result is final. Also checked the challengers, apart from mobile stage results are final for me as well, but maybe it changes if I overlooked something^^ Edited September 30, 2015 by websmile Quote
trodas Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 I managed to run SuperPi 32M on P90 easily, but that is Socket 5/7 ... but on same mobo I get into very big troubles using AMD K5 PR75... So it is possible, but it is quite hard. Quote
Mr.Scott Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Its possible to run Pi32, you just need 128Mb memory, NTFS, windows2k and ofc patience. Â Yeah?....where's your entry? Quote
zaraquer Posted October 2, 2015 Posted October 2, 2015 I'm run out of time(2 days left when i finished my rig), so i wont run the test. I will submit it when i have time to run the test on my socket3 config. Quote
mr.paco Posted October 2, 2015 Posted October 2, 2015 I will submit it when i have time to run the test on my socket3 config. Most definitely would be interested in seeing if/what/how you did... Quote
zaraquer Posted October 2, 2015 Posted October 2, 2015 The test was run 2 days long, and when i saw i'm out of time, i stop it. I have no exception or any error before i stop it, so i guess its possible to get a result in pi 32m with socket3. Quote
Mr.Scott Posted October 2, 2015 Posted October 2, 2015 The test was run 2 days long, and when i saw i'm out of time, i stop it. I have no exception or any error before i stop it, so i guess its possible to get a result in pi 32m with socket3. That is not true. People have finished the iterations without error but errored in the final output. Don't speculate. Either you finish the run or you didn't. Quote
max1024 Posted October 2, 2015 Posted October 2, 2015 Who knows when will sum up this competition results? Quote
Marquzz Posted October 2, 2015 Posted October 2, 2015 The problem is not the run itself, it's when SuperPi are finalizing the calculation the errors occurs. Â Â Â Â Â The test was run 2 days long, and when i saw i'm out of time, i stop it. I have no exception or any error before i stop it, so i guess its possible to get a result in pi 32m with socket3. Quote
ludek Posted October 2, 2015 Posted October 2, 2015 I didn't know about this thread. I tried also: - change amount of memory, now 96 MB because of destroyed poor 32 MB ones - change system from NT4.0 which is annoying as s... and no USB support without mods. Mods not poss to be done on such slow system. - change motherboard - add PCI external controllers (CMD or Silicon Image 680). the SI680 is very good and I have even done a trick - CF card to store SPI salculations (1GB is enough, huh?)(on AMD K5 it was enough ) - Pagefile on the same drive as system  I haven't tried the trick with changing time just before every 24 hrs. (maybe it's better to change time every 12 hours? Or better 11h:50min?). I will be back and some day I will do this extremely extreme SPI32 MB on 486.  There's also so much other problems. For example not reliable ISA connectors - might be dirt on connecitons. There is also possibility that CMOS battery was leaked which is very common issue on old motherboards and there might be some "cutted" electrical paths. For example normal path has 0.2 ohm and the oxidised can have few oms and leakage would make some non-linear behaviours at high freqs. The paths are made of copper. Long time ago before silicon and germanium there was copper oxide rectifiers - the non linear el. parts. The most scarry thing for me is that L2 cache or CPU pins can be covered by dirt and dust or some oxidate things. This might cause problems even after few hrs of counting SPI...  Ahh, this is very hard and good UPS is needed. Good PSU is also not bad idea.  I have 2 motherboards but non of those is for shure rock stable. Both pass memtest, but SPI is behaving differently, and there we are back to the question "is the instability caused by system realtime clock". It would be nice to ask the maker of SPI if he included some "security features" for example scarry user won't unplug the PSU so program is closing automatically after "long time" when "long time" is defined by 23 hours 59 minutes 59 seconds or something like that.  These are my ideas. What other ideas do you have ppl? Quote
Marquzz Posted October 3, 2015 Posted October 3, 2015 I don't have a stability problem as such since SuperPi gladly continue through all the way. It has something to do with the last things out does, moving data, writing to file and what not. I can do 8MB without any problem. I would like to try my setup with a Pentium overdrive and see if it's 486 related. Quote
trodas Posted October 3, 2015 Posted October 3, 2015 Well, it is definitively not related to over 24h for calculation, as 33+h runs are shown: Â Â So it must be related to HDD / chipset stability under very high CPU load... Quote
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