Crew Strunkenbold Posted November 14, 2015 Crew Share Posted November 14, 2015 The situation is that the generations which are older than Geforce and Radeon are extremely bad supported by GPU-Z. We often dont know about Memory Size, Memory Bus, stock frequencys or overclocked frequencys. If there are any information shown at all. Some people know about that and use Rivatuner, Powerstrip or even 3DMark sysinfo. But none of them show any useful details which are necessary to pick the right category for the cards. So in the end we have a very difficult situation. Users dont know which card to select from our db and mods have therefore a hard time too making the right choice if things need to get moderated. The best solution would be to get GPU-Z in a working condition. But it doesnt look like the author does pay much attention to those old cards. So I found it extremely useful to download everest220 home edition. It is just a small 4Mb download and shows all we need. I would really vote for updating the rules for 3DMark01 and under and Aquamark and making everest mandatory on the verification screenshot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.paco Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 +1 If it works and can help benchers and staff to properly id a card seem like a great idea for those older non Geforce n Radeon cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Everest220 better than newer versions (Aida64)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.paco Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Tried them both with a GT610 (what I have running at the moment) As you see Everest 220home dosent show any gpu info vs AIDA64 that shows all. Not sure if thats what youre looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Strunkenbold Posted November 15, 2015 Author Crew Share Posted November 15, 2015 Of course the newer cards wont get recognized by everest. It is simply too old for that. But on the otherside its small and free. And older cards get perfectly detected. Actually, I dont care if its Everest or AIDA or some other program. As long as its displaying the details we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Currently it says "GPU-Z Graphics Card tab (Rivatuner may be used if GPU-Z fails to correctly report the GPU)" Guess we can change it to "GPU-Z Graphics Card tab (Everest/Aida64 must be used if GPU-Z fails to correctly report the GPU)" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Strunkenbold Posted November 16, 2015 Author Crew Share Posted November 16, 2015 That would be great, maybe we could also add a link to everest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basco Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 what about gpu shark or gpu caps viewer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Strunkenbold Posted May 2, 2016 Author Crew Share Posted May 2, 2016 Another half year passed. Nothing happend. Any update here? about gpu shark, gpu caps viewer: Those tools have just the same problems like GPU-Z they dont run on win98 and fail to detect those old cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=160346 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Strunkenbold Posted November 8, 2016 Author Crew Share Posted November 8, 2016 http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=160346 Still not in the rules... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TASOS Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 What is the current status on this issue ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted February 4, 2021 Crew Share Posted February 4, 2021 Before my days, any proposition lads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Need a HWB liaison to contact Wizzard at TPU and tell him exactly what you want. He is willing to make the changes in GPUz, just needs to know what all the problems are. I have mentioned this many times at TPU but could not answer all of his questions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted February 4, 2021 Crew Share Posted February 4, 2021 Well time for you, TASOS and co have a debate what the issues are and what can be done there. For the Bot we need the name of the GPU, Device ID, rops, shaders, core, core speed, mem type, speed,... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Strunkenbold Posted February 6, 2021 Author Crew Share Posted February 6, 2021 The reason for my proposal were bugs with Rage 128 cards, basically GPU-Z always identified wrong specs. Its showing wrong bus width, means 32 bit vs. 16 bit and sometimes detected DDR Ram. While all cards have sdram or sgram. Also clock speeds weren't detected. The difference can be seen here, although I would need to recheck with a new version of GPU-Z https://hwbot.org/submission/2974796_strunkenbold_3dmark2001_se_rage_128_vr_(64bit)_792_marks A VR cant have more than 64 bit or having DDR Ram. GPU-Z was simply completely bugged and ruined our rankings. Its hard to tell if they changed something in between or if if they were correct in early versions. Rankings look strange, results varying from 500 to 2000 points in 3DMark01 in the same category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liq_met Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Need to correct a description for Gpu z & Cpu zhttps://hwbot.org/submission/2388793 https://hwbot.org/submission/4232514 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unityofsaints Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 On 2/4/2021 at 9:11 PM, Mr.Scott said: Need a HWB liaison to contact Wizzard at TPU and tell him exactly what you want. He is willing to make the changes in GPUz, just needs to know what all the problems are. I have mentioned this many times at TPU but could not answer all of his questions. Yes looks like a once-off fix too because we're not getting any more misidentified cards, just a fixed number of old ones with the problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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