Country Cup 2022 Planning Thread

[yosarianilives]

As team cup 2022 draws to a close it's a good time to start proposing stages. I went through the team cup ones and kept the ones appropriate for cc as a starter but please comment with ideas for stages or risk getting laughed at when you wait until after comp starts to complain about stages. https://docs.google.com/document/d/18iCZWy45BrKM_on_K0JxEzWEizkrR6AX12JhDywwNd0/edit?usp=sharing

[exaberries]

could use some more multi gpu, maybe fermi sli?

might be fun to have some terascale gpus in there as well

hedt (x58, x79, x99, x299) single core stuff (32m, pyprime) might be interesting especially since you can't disable cores

some more legacy gpu stuff would get my vote as well, maybe clock limited 03

most of the am4 suggestions sound good but I especially like ref frequency, and zen 1 3dm11 physics

Edited October 12, 2022 by exaberries
forgot multi gpu suggestion

[denvys5]

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Am4 max ref clk

true ref. clock, or cpu ref clock?

If true ref., sounds bad, we have no way to distinguish it from cpu ref clock (cpuz shows cpu ref clock on AM4) and we will see a lot of 120mhz results, once everybody figures it out.
If cpu ref clock, boards with external bclk AND ref. clock target switch (for example, crosshair 6 and 7) will dominate the stage, which also doesn't sound great.

[yosarianilives]

35 minutes ago, denvys5 said:

true ref. clock, or cpu ref clock?

If true ref., sounds bad, we have no way to distinguish it from cpu ref clock (cpuz shows cpu ref clock on AM4) and we will see a lot of 120mhz results, once everybody figures it out.
If cpu ref clock, boards with external bclk AND ref. clock target switch (for example, crosshair 6 and 7) will dominate the stage, which also doesn't sound great.

W8 they're not linked? And I think we'd do it by chipset so at least c8 would be out cause x570 sux

[denvys5]

25 minutes ago, yosarianilives said:

W8 they're not linked?

They are linked. On most boards. But, there are exceptions:

1. Crosshair X370
2. Crosshair X470

Those boards have a feature to unlink bclk from cpu ref. clock and clock them separately. Cpuz registers one tied to cpu. 

It is easy to check manually in cpuz valid, attention to memory clock.

 

25 minutes ago, yosarianilives said:

And I think we'd do it by chipset so at least c8 would be out cause x570 sux

120mhz should be doable on most boards, with unlocked specific bios options (to disable the chipset  ), so the only other option become boards with external bclk that do not have 120mhz limit (no idea which would fit here, C8 maybe? giga x470?)

Edited October 12, 2022 by denvys5

[denvys5]

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Am4 cpu valid

If no restrictions, not a lot of diversity, 6gig ln2 all subs (and 5g+- ambient)

If split into specific generations, it may become interesting.

 

Edited October 12, 2022 by denvys5

[yosarianilives]

if we did bclk I'd say just go with cpu bclk for simplicity, but apparently seby killed 2 ssds already from am4 bclk, not just the install either. so maybe skip this one lol

[ProKoN]

Looking forward towards the 2022 CC

Id love to see this moved to DEC-JAN. Some people get more time off work during this period...Plus its colder here in Canadaland

 

Thanks to all who moderate and participate!!

[yosarianilives]

We've voted on this before, stays Nov Dec. But we could always do another poll, ultimate decision is up to Alby. Either way we should suggest as many stages as we can think of that we'd want otherwise we have no right to complain about bad stages after comp start. 

[exaberries]

posting this here as well as in the discord

more stage suggestions:

• gts 450 3dm 03
• fermi firestrike, socket 1150 only, no gpu count restriction
• superposition on some older gpu gen
• 3dm 11 extreme terascale gpus
• x265 4k per core, by socket (1366, 2011-1, 2011-3, 2066), probably no kbl-x for 2066

[Jumper118]

can we have a stage for new gpus now that they are available again. ive got all these gpus sitting here not mining. why not have a 8x 3090 gpu pi stage 

Edited October 14, 2022 by Jumper118

[Jumper118]

18 hours ago, ProKoN said:

Looking forward towards the 2022 CC

Id love to see this moved to DEC-JAN. Some people get more time off work during this period.

agree. end of year is always busy at work whereas jan is dead and much easier to get time off. 

[yosarianilives]

Guys people have already planned their vacation time around nov/Dec. As fun as it would be to cuck the aussies, just no. We can discuss dec/Jan for cc 2023

[Tech Tested]

Terascale 3XXX, 4XXX, 5XXX, 6XXX crossfire vantage performance on AM2+, AM3 CPU's allowed

[exaberries]

I think a hd 6xxx stage would be interesting, fm2+ is probably too legacy for cc, maybe yos can weigh in

[Tech Tested]

if FM2+ is too legacy than I am pretty screwed in participating in CC at all lol

[Leeghoofd]

Who's Yos ?

[saltycroissant]

Kepler SLI 4 score total 2gtx600/2gtx700 (6 core only CPU) 3D11

HD (3000-7000) series crossfire x2 or x3 heaven or vantage 

AMD Gddr5 stage Firestrike

nvidia XX70 or XX60 series Time spy

 

[exaberries]

I like the kepler stage, maybe 8 core instead of 6 core? opens up a few more options

maybe narrow the crossfire to just 3000-6000 so its just terascale no gcn 

and like I said in the discord channel:

32m per intel hedt socket (1366?, 2011-1, 2011-3, 2066) (no kblx)

zen 1 (am4 only) 3dmark 11 physics (per core?)

[Don_Dan]

Last year someone (unity?) proposed a Skylake farewell stage, like SuperPI 32M for Core i generations 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 and I liked that idea.

Or Geekbench (3/4?) Multi Core Intel 4- (or 6-)core CPUs with different sockets.

Or Cinebench R20 AM4 Zen 1, 2, 3 & AM5 Zen 4 8-core CPUs

Also 3DMark Port Royal or even the new Speed Way?

Edited October 15, 2022 by Don_Dan

[exaberries]

I like the current situation of having a speed way stage for each amd and nvidia

[yosarianilives]

7 hours ago, Leeghoofd said:

Who's Yos ?

Idk, probably some asshole 

[Leeghoofd]

First draft is up:  https://hwbot.org/competition/Country Cup 2022

I want to finalize on wednesday, the latest... forget about specific mem IC stages, way too hard to moderate

 

[Tech Tested]

I agree that the crossfire stage should be narrowed down to terascale, so 3000-6000 series. 

I also think it would be fun to do a benchmark for FM2/+ that would use the IGPU as well as the CPU. Something like vantage performance would be fun. 

[Leeghoofd]

What's the use as most will use HD 6000 series anyway ?

You can't have fun twice with the same platform, Ebay needs to make some profits too