Viss Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Why would vtt be the cause, it might help but i do think vcore + Vantage cpu tests are the biggest problem. Quote
Massman Posted February 19, 2012 Author Posted February 19, 2012 2 other guys told me they never used higher than 1.25 and chips already degraded WTF? damn my 5600 C1 is dead too no more good chips here....i pass for IVY this time It's really strange. With regular SB and C1 SBE, I had no degradation whatsoever (even with 5800+ 26K), but with C2 ... no idea. Mind = blown. How's your chip doing, Viss? Can you still run the same frequencies? Quote
Hiwa Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Why would vtt be the cause, it might help but i do think vcore + Vantage cpu tests are the biggest problem. it's vtt i benched 1.35 /1.40 on some chips before all with def cpu freq, only testing ram, just one boot at +55XX 6/12 but 1.20vtt and 24XX ram(no vantage no wprime only boot), the day after cpu can't boot over 1.25 vtt(1.26 00 error on R4E debuger) checked cpu freq and fluck -200MHz. Quote
Hiwa Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 It's really strange. With regular SB and C1 SBE, I had no degradation whatsoever (even with 5800+ 26K), but with C2 ... no idea. Mind = blown. How's your chip doing, Viss? Can you still run the same frequencies? same here, i have a SB here 58XX and never degraded, same for my C1 benched a lot of times at 1.40vtt and +1.65 vcore Quote
nedernakker Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 my C1 used tot do 5300 @ 1.475V under SS, the chip barely passes 5100 now with same temps under SS. chip never had more then 1.525V max VTT and SA used 1.2V.... Quote
Massman Posted February 19, 2012 Author Posted February 19, 2012 Hm. Why are we using upto 1.2VTT anyway on SB-E? I remember for regular SB, I never used that much VTT or VSA because it was highly unrecommended. What's different for SBE? Quote
nedernakker Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 I run 2 sets of gskill ripjaws 2133 c7 @ 2400 9-11-9-27 and that requires 1.2v for stability. When i use my corsair 16 GB 2133 9-11-10-27 i can run VTT and SA @ 1.1 V It's strange if those voltages degrade cpu's, as far as I recall Intel whitepapers say up to 1.3 is safe Quote
Hiwa Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Hm. Why are we using upto 1.2VTT anyway on SB-E? I remember for regular SB, I never used that much VTT or VSA because it was highly unrecommended. What's different for SBE? higher it's only for 26XX memories no need higher than 1.20/1.25 for 24XX Quote
sin0822 Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Hm. Why are we using upto 1.2VTT anyway on SB-E? I remember for regular SB, I never used that much VTT or VSA because it was highly unrecommended. What's different for SBE? Intel states 1.4v on either VCCSA or VCCIO is max, which is heavily raised from the Sb limits. Quote
[DRACO] Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Brother I have a same problem, I tried several i7 3930k C2 and one of them happens to me, At 5300 h2o boots and passes all tests, but after days SS try to see if Yanomami up more and can run at 5300,: ( Like everything in the bios but I can not go from 5000mhz: (. Never gone from 1.2 vtssa, I think it may be another problem and not the vout or vtt. By h2o 5300 than before and now can not run? (That chip I have already sold) Also say that other issues are just not alone with this, A gradient of 4 chips: ( Quote
SoF Posted February 24, 2012 Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) 3960X C1 (?) SR0GW Costa Rica (again...) 3133B439 2V118196A085 Air: 51x 1.5V - hangs up in windows 51x 1.55V - hangs up on desktop ~50°C - hot bastard, last one was 5-8°C colder... SingleStage: 54x max boot, 55x freeze, no reboot possible 5450 with 6 cores not ht max for old 3D benches, 6/12 not testet not too bad, good for some tripplecard scores and testing the next preparing single stage... Edited February 24, 2012 by SoF Quote
dumo Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) 3820 3201B200 *A1358 5250Mhz/1202 max cold died 3820 3201B200 *A0821 5205Mhz/1195 max cold 3820 3201B200 *A1356 5310Mhz/1316/163 max air...so far Edited February 29, 2012 by dumo Quote
SoF Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 3820 seem to be crappy chips - my first one did 5074... that degrading issue is hard to investigate - only thing I could remark until now: single stage will still give you 20-30°C+ on the cores according to realtemp during vantage, while the "CPU Socket sensor" shows 5-10°C... Same issue as like 10 years ago....the cores will heat up much more than the "general cpu temp" sensor. With 6 cores it is much more complicated. You think you have -40°C on your stager but in real the CPU get's much warmer... Quote
dumo Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) My third 3820 seems promising. This on air...It still has 12 more up multi to play with cold if I'm lucky Edit: Actually I'm lucky with cold:) Edited March 4, 2012 by dumo Quote
SoF Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 163 bclk - WOOT! Awesome job, first time I see that running at all - you always surprise me Quote
rsnubje Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 Here's my result, cooled with a Corsair H100. I think these cpu's make a good chance to replace the 2600k's these days. Quote
Viss Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 I dont think they stand a chance. 2600K clocks higher easy on boards that cost half as much as socket 2011. Not faster clock for clock either. Ivy wil replace 2600K Quote
Massman Posted March 2, 2012 Author Posted March 2, 2012 I agree with Viss. Ivy replaces everything in all benchmarks aside from 3D11 and Vantage. Quote
nedernakker Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 I agree with that, but it's fun to see a locked multi cpu benefit from the baseclock straps Quote
Viss Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 No doubt about that, its fun to play with, awaiting 3820 Quote
Viss Posted March 3, 2012 Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) L153A under SS http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2279636 Edited March 3, 2012 by Viss Quote
Massman Posted March 3, 2012 Author Posted March 3, 2012 Dafuq is going on with you, Viss. All those golden chips lately If karma is real, none of your Ivy chips will pass 5G Quote
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