Worth investigating?

[K404]

wytiwx

 

Celeron 347: 8398MHz! (FSB: 365!!!)

 

Celeron 356: 8312MHz

 

Celeron 352: 8228MHz

 

Celeron 360: 8169MHz

 

Celeron 365: 8065MHz

 

 

 

 

All submitted in the space of a few weeks, from random batches no-one else has success with. I no longer believe in his scores. There were......25? people in the netburst 8GHz club, then this guy comes along with all these scores?

 

 

i3 540: 280.7 BCLK??

 

The bigger problem: this guy might have found a way to hack CPU-Z validation.

[Christian Ney]

You are not the only one.

 

A few people already complained to me about this guy yesterday and this morning, I will contact CPU-Z this evening

[GENiEBEN]

The bigger problem: this guy might have found a way to hack CPU-Z validation.

 

Brute attacks on 1400b files will eventually end up successfully

Out of curiosity I've also snooped the Online Submit button, it's a basic query of username+email+rawcvf.

Edited January 18, 2013 by GENiEBEN

[Massman]

i3 540 at 280 isn't impossible afaik - people were hitting 300 with P55.

[K404]

LOL now he has 2 chips at 8.4GHz or more

 

Maybe I shouldn't comment on the Clarkdale score, I don't know enough about it

Edited January 19, 2013 by K404

[Christian Ney]

Franck from CPU-Z said he also thinks this guy is hacking CPU-Z, waiting for Samuel to be back so they can find out how to catch him. Atm there seems to be no way to prove it 100 %.

[K404]

Thanks for the update

[GENiEBEN]

Franck from CPU-Z said he also thinks this guy is hacking CPU-Z, waiting for Samuel to be back so they can find out how to catch him. Atm there seems to be no way to prove it 100 %.

 

Haha awesome. So far I've looked into it and it's base64+gzuncompress, haven't had much time to go deeper but it can't be good.

 

They need AES or something else

[Christian Ney]

http://bbs.expreview.com/thread-49154-1-1.html

[der8auer]

Thanks for uploading this video, Christian: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=feUZBoSWqF4

 

Seems legit or?

[K404]

Still struggling to see how he alone can suddenly have so many chips that are so much better than everyone elses and to get the MHz in one boot.... it's hard to argue with video evidence.

 

Hacked CPU-Z itself? SetFSB? or somehow..... legit.

[Christian Ney]

Waiting for info from CPUZ guys, but seems legit

[knopflerbruce]

I'm too lazy to check if he did superpi/wprime/pifast, but perhaps that's an option if he only does CPUZ.

[K404]

http://hwbot.org/submission/2352767_wytiwx_cpu_frequency_celeron_lga775_352_8486.26_mhz

 

Does everyone still believe in this guy? He is about to hit 8.5GHz or, to put it another way.....200MHz over the previous best that took 300 CPUs and 7 years of availability to find.

[GENiEBEN]

I guess there is one way to find out: CPUID has to change the format of validation files.

[Hyperhorn]

Actually it's "only" 166 MHz better than duck`s Netburst record, so I wouldn't dramatize that by blowing the numbers up. ;p Remember that Andre Yang is the CPU-Z record holder with a gap of 292 Mhz at the moment and I think nobody questions his score seriously. (Yes, Zambezi is quite new and you can't compare the values directly, but what I want to say is that it is in fact possible to achieve legit records with quite a gap.)

 

Some ideas to prove the legitimacy: Trusted overclockers who managed to achieve 8 GHz numbers with Netburst-CPUs in the past could get the chance to work with the same processor(s). Benchmarks like Super Pi 1M from start to finish together with CPU-Z on a video also would be an indicator of the supremacy of wytiwx`s CPUs.

 

Did wytiwx tell accidentally how many Netburst CPUs he has access to? If there are hundreds of Netburst chips from a fresh source (not Ebay, maybe a Chinese sale platform or bankruptcy items) I don't think it's that unlikely that a very limited amount of them is good for the clock frequencies we see now.

 

It's a difficult situation: One the one hand a proper CPU-Z validation fullfils all needs requirements for a legit Hwbot score on the other hand it's surprisingly one overclocker seems to exceed the limit (or what we thought it is) of an exhausted architecture so easily with several CPUs and we remember that the way CPU-Z clock readings work were changed when Windows 8 were released at the end of 2012, what led to incorrect values in some cases not a long time ago.

Edited February 5, 2013 by Hyperhorn

[Christian Ney]

he provided a video of SuperPi running at 8.2 Ghz no ?

[Hyperhorn]

I don't know. I've seen the video you uploaded and der8auer posted and it is fine in my book (but doesn't include a benchmark). If such a video exists it would be useful to include it here.

 

btw to point that out: I'm not calling for actions here, rather I wanted to share my point of view on this topic as an interested observer.

[Christian Ney]

http://hwbot.org/submission/2351946_

 

I was talking about those videos:

 

 

[K404]

It seems HWB crime section is no longer private. I have had some messages from people who are reading this thread and now I can see the threads started by others. LOL i'm still the one who's posted most threads in here.

[dinos22]

seems legit from that video. would be hard to fake all that. he does seem incredibly lucky though!