Mr.Scott

Thanks Alex. I know it takes time, and you'll try to be fair. On the pictures though, you could put any picture you wanted up but you'll still never really know if that's the processor that was used, right? So the only real thing you have to go by is CPU-Z, correct? I'm just sayin....

Question: Are all of these submissions in the wrong category, or is there really a problem with CPU-Z? I've already reported these, and a mod moved them to what is believed to be the proper class, only to have the person who submitted them move them back. Thus, I reported them again. Today I see more of the same type submission from the same person. If it IS a CPU-Z error, how do we really know what type of chip it is? I'd really like to know this, because I have MP's that I'd like to have scored in the XP classes too. BTW, this shouldn't be taken personal by the one submitting them, but his are the only one's that are like that. tia http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1089603_tapakah_cpu_z_athlon_xp_1600_palomino_2259.36_mhz http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1089600_tapakah_pifast_athlon_xp_1600_palomino_63.31_sec http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1089598_tapakah_superpi_athlon_xp_1600_palomino_45sec_375ms http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1089599_tapakah_superpi_32m_athlon_xp_1600_palomino_41min_47sec_718ms http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1089601_tapakah_wprime_32m_athlon_xp_1600_palomino_1min_14sec_789ms http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1089602_tapakah_wprime_1024m_athlon_xp_1600_palomino_40min_12sec_835ms http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1089736_tapakah_wprime_1024m_athlon_xp_1700_palomino_38min_25sec_18ms http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1089733_tapakah_wprime_32m_athlon_xp_1700_palomino_1min_11sec_425ms http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1089729_tapakah_superpi_32m_athlon_xp_1700_palomino_40min_30sec_828ms http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1089728_tapakah_superpi_athlon_xp_1700_palomino_43sec_750ms http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1089730_tapakah_pifast_athlon_xp_1700_palomino_62.41_sec http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1089738_tapakah_cpu_z_athlon_xp_1700_palomino_2382.61_mhz http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1090980_tapakah_cpu_z_athlon_xp_1800_palomino_2382.49_mhz http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1090977_tapakah_pifast_athlon_xp_1800_palomino_62.36_sec http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1090975_tapakah_superpi_athlon_xp_1800_palomino_45sec_797ms http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1090976_tapakah_superpi_32m_athlon_xp_1800_palomino_41min_17sec_188ms http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1090979_tapakah_wprime_1024m_athlon_xp_1800_palomino_38min_39sec_228ms http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1090978_tapakah_wprime_32m_athlon_xp_1800_palomino_1min_7sec_62ms

Good solid run my Russian friend. Very nice.

Tough challenge. SPI 32M is brutal. Having much fun though. Many thanks to the staff.

Nice score buddy. I'm 9 minutes behind you on air. Congrats.

Don't suppose you would mind sharing how you got a 12x multi on a fully locked Sempron that has a 11x multi, especially on a NF2 board that doesn't recognize pin or bridge mods? EDIT- Thank you mods for moving to the proper category.

It's all good buddy, I was just asking. I found a couple in the US and I'm pretty sure I'm gonna pick one up. Thanks for the info.

Thought so, but I don't see the FX 5500 on the supported GPU list. Thanks. I stand a snowballs chance in hell finding one of those boards in the US.

Don't suppose you could tell me how you benched an AGP card on an AM3 board please? If it's real, I'd like one of those boards.

Indeed. Very impressive ram. What Mushkin model are those? Redline?

You'll need more than that. http://www.hwbot.org/searchResults.do?direction=backwards&applicationId=7&cpu=Athlon+64+3000%2B+Venice+s939&numberOfProcessors=1&gpu=&numberOfVideocards=0&manufacturer=&chipset=&model=&memManufacturer=&memType=&memProduct=&minCpuFreq=&maxCpuFreq=&minGpuCoreFreq=&maxGpuCoreFreq=&minGpuMemFreq=&maxGpuMemFreq=&minMemFreq=&maxMemFreq=&countryId=0&teamId=0&userName=&minScore=&maxScore=&displayAdvanced=false&filterBlocked=&filterUser=&filterVerification=&imageAttached=&dateFrom=&dateUntil=&system=&minTotalPoints=&gpuId=0&cpuId=259&chipsetId=0&modelId=0&manufacturerId=0&memManufacturerId=&memProductId=&memTypeId=&offset=20

Thanks guys. Already bettered it. Still on air. http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1084489_mr.scott_cpu_z_athlon_64_3000_venice_s939_3140.1_mhz

Not even Winter air. I'd like to run this chip again with a little sub-ambient help. It might be a nice one. Not bad for $1 + shipping.

That makes it really easy to fraud a submission, wouldn't you say?

Let me pose a different question then. In the socket A Sempron categories most (99%)of the SS's in CPU-Z have no numerical designation in the CPU PSN or specification lines for whatever Sempron is installled. Example: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1363245 Yet I see a few entries that do. Example: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=651371 CPU-Z version doesn't seem to matter because I can find another like the above one using version 1.55 too. What bothers me is that even with an overclocked FSB, it still reads as a 2200+. Why would it not read higher like the other Athlon CPU's do when they're overclocked? Here's the kicker, this one does: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=847707 That's actually a 2300+ Sempron overclocked to 2600+ specs. Why?, and why does it not work the same for all of them?

I'll field that question. It is possible to have a Sempron show up as an unknown XP-M if the motherboard is not a NF motherboard and the CPU is bridge or pin modded to a mobile CPU. Case and point, my 2200+ Sempron here. http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/807817_mr.scott_cpu_z_sempron_2200_athlon_xp_2415_mhz It's also possible for a Sempron to read as a MP (multiprocessor) if the motherboard or bios isn't coded to actually support Sempron's. This is actually a huge problem in the socket A categories because it's so easy to work a cheat into the mix. I already know I've been taken advantage of by said cheats, but because of the inconsistencies with CPU-Z there is no real way to prove it, or stop it. Taking the word of the submissour is simply not good enough.

I have no problem admitting defeat....as long as it's to a valid submission. You're too late, deleting that SS and replacing it will not help you. I have a SS of the original one that you posted and removed, which if it was legit as you say, you would have not removed it. Enjoy it. I already know it's a fraud.

Not buying it. I have Sempron CPU-Z's on versions ranging from 1.42 to 1.56 and none of them show a numerical designation. I have modded bios' by Merlin, TicTac, Etc. on all my boards, not to mention I mod my own bios', and none read like that either, so that doesn't wash. I'm more suggesting a photoshop session at this point, if you can't tell me why your submission is the only one that's like that in the entire Sempron category in all of HWBot.

How'd you get CPU-Z to read it at 2200+ with the increased bus speed? As a matter of fact, it shouldn't read any numerical designation at all. It should just say sempron. CPU-Z doesn't read a numerical designation on any of my semprons, no matter what version I use, and after checking a lot of everybody else's submissions, in all of the sempron classes, it doesn't show on any of their's either. I smell a rat here. I don't want to use the "C" word here, but unless you can come up with a good explaination as to why your CPU-Z is the only one on the bot like that........well......

As do I. Thank you again for your prompt help. It is very much needed and appreciated.

But you were content to leave it as a XP-M 1900 even though you knew it was a bad entry. Thank you Sweet for fixing that. Question: If Wprime has a problem uploading the correct info, shouldn't we not be using it and manually entering the submissions? Does anybody really know how many submissions like this have gone un-noticed?

If it's a Duron 1600, why is it listed and scored as a XP-M 1900?

You have good spirit. A little bench off perhaps. I have a lot of gas left in the tank. My runs were done @ 1.9v See ya round.

+1 for the contests. Keep them coming. They keep it fun.

Now you're cookin Paco.