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It's not out yet bro... We use what we have atm

Ill add it to the stage rules that only graphics driver not approved is acceptable. mail the FM screenshots to me plz I'll add them to the sub @superpatodonaldo, nope still hidden, let's do the above

Skydiver was already requiring a VALID link since January so that's nothing really new. The Firestrikes remain exempted and can still use lod tweaking.

And where does one stop with software improvements? What is a database worth if one would allow this for each and every benchmark? Comparison and Dbase thrown out of the window, ditch CPUZ, screenshots, no more need... pulling all of these scores... Seems I need to revise all the new rules and impose dozens of Don't do's again, same as the old ones had.... one step forward, 2 steps back....

you are really comparing apples and oranges Yosi and are way to hard thinking as a software guy... LOD on modern cards for legacy benchmarks isn't even required, no clue why you bring this up... Maybe I'm the database keeper, but if the benchmark becomes way more efficient as you said it, shouldn't we classify it under another category... as it has become "more optimized". We have had these optimisations with XTU, X265, GPUPI 3.3 and it's a continuous drama. That's why I seperated GPUPI 3.2 and 3.3. Now I could care less if we had only 200 subs, But the wprime database is huge. Adn these scores are really out of whack for clocks versus efficiency. No scores stays forever and Luumi eg has shown it can be done by real overclocking and tweaking. Many of the new top scores, like eg your AMD ones are that we learned how to properly maximize this CPU generation. On top of that we now have superior pots, better thermal paste and more knowledge how to fine tune memory and OS.

So I share the numerous cheatengine, Slinky PC tweaks and than that makes it okay for modern OCers apparently If you use common sense and reasoning you can easily determine that this wprime scoring has got nothing to do with a tweak (like setting affinity , playing with the threads or running in diag mode) and definitely nothing to do with true spirit of OCing. Yes that bascily means more Mhz and tweaking to get that little edge. Not trash a 2D score with 300MHz less in CPU power. In my little narrow minded world I would classify it as software haxing. Again GPUPI requires 3rd party software, same as HWBot prime, I never liked that idea but the developer took that path. Raufs tweak is also known by the mods... Do I use it, nope, but that one is a genuine tweak...

If a benchmark requires a 3rd party software it is like that and tweakable if you find the right version. LOD can also be set by anyone and there's a challenge to find the right setting To be honest the software tweaking is tiresome, especialy for moderation or setting up rules...

If we approve this we lost another benchmark in my book... I still remember I got contacted on Discord for this and I saw a slightly faster score at similar clocks. So though yeah why not. But don't you all think this is getting completely disproportionate now? CPUs running at 300-400Mhz lower and shaving of over 30seconds... This act will mess up the entire socket 775 Wprime ranking, imagine another DLL is found and that guy will beat your scores that you achieved by binning tons of CPUs and wasted liters of LN2 on by a watercooled CPU... I rather have this stopped right now and remove a dozen scores and to keep the integrity of the database and the users mertited points. If you guys vote to keep it well I only see the option to remove points here, as it will become a complete drama alike XTU or PCMark. Or we end up imposing BenchMate runs on Win7 so this might not occur. This ain't Wprime anymore and yes correct you are not directly are changing the benchmark, but the bottom line is it ain't fair to all those that either don't have their gem cpus anymore and did it the right way by just pressing Run Benchmark. To me its the same as running a 1990 Formula one car with a far more optimized fuel mixture that unleashes an extra 100Hp and break all the track records becasue the cars top speed is way higher and accelerates more rapdidly....

Those are not part of the 3DMARK benchmark suite

Everything should be visible on older versions, so that's not a problem. It is with the new Benchmark GUI layout that you can't fit everything on the screen, unless you have a 1440P screen or oversize the resolution via the videocard software. But from 2021 a verification link will be mandatory for all 3DMarks...

Verification screenshot contains CPUZ for CPU, memory and Zentimings v1.2.1

reported it, was trying to do a summary of all the challengers last nite and it was insanely slow, I gave up EDIT: Just got the word that it was restarted. Seems to work again!

Sorry no ES sales here

Where does one find a 3090 in Europe ?

It might look something like this: Up to 50 subs: maximum of 50 points Up to 100 subs: maximum of 75 points More than 100 subs 150 points. It will not be one fixed value. There will be a correlation with the amount of subs, but no more 167.3 and stuff

There will never be a perfect solution that fits all. Same as for your proposal on the 2D list its impossible to configure to specify which hardware gets points or not. Either I exclude that modern hardware in the rules per benchmark but it will be uncontrollable for proper modération. For the points, if I pull some hardware points or team power points from specific benchmarks there will be more of a riot from specific teams. I see it like this: The ones that put it in a lot effort will get rewarded. Do they need to have top scores? Do they need to bench them all? Nope, but for some users it might be quantity over quality of their scores. And therefore contributing to their hardware ranking and team ranking The main concept for 2021 is to minimize the nr rules and allow faster and easier calculation for the Bot. No more complex stuff.

Matt has integrated y-cruncher. So maybe he can crosscheck with the developer. Copy on the 7-zip. Never ran it ?

Well it's all or nothing bro.. I can only add it in the rules. I see no functionality to limit specific hardware from the benchmarks configuration setup. Rules are fine but that won't stop some to still submit and get points undetected....

Is that one stable, I pulled Winrar as each version changes the output, like AIDA

If you want to participate in Country Cup, plz use the competition background. Don't forget to add GPUZ tab and the Futuremark verification link plz

Ticked Vantage and Time Spy Extreme

I rahter keep these for the peeps with less powerfull setups, you guys can have fun with Timespy and co

Benchmarks are sorted on the benchmark list and also on the submission page. 3D is arranged,, 2D is in progress. Visible on the uat.hwbot.org testpage. (caution test site is very sloooooooow)

Latest version, removed TestCPU from the list (but points will still be there, but you can't submit to it anymore) Some other minor changes (in green)

I tested the GFXbench yesterday on 3 setups, it is only working on one setup properly. Always get this annoying server error issue (even though it did downloaded and installed the required files on all 3 machines from the internet at first start) Next reboot the server error is there. Will cut it loose if there's no reply from their support...