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nVidia's real time "ray tracing" tech demo won't last the distance. I reckon at best you'll have 3 generations of nVidia architectures that have their special implementation of "real time" ray tracing. Give it a year or two and then decide if it is worth giving points to. FYI, in case you didn't notice, nVidia used their marvellous and very useful implementation of ray tracing in Turing merely as an excuse to jack the price of GPUs into the stratosphere. heh. ?
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Windows 10 on pre skylake or AMD? Check the FAQ and benchmark rules page.
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There are proposals being floated. It would be good to not penalise new entries that have been saved but not uploaded provided the score a) Legitimate and b) is an improved score which makes obvious c) has not been uploaded previously.
That said it's pretty funny to see the sandbags being jettisoned over the last couple of days
. The panic is real! 
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I disagree with your belief. The action taken was definitely not the right way to approach the situation and through the course of this thread changing from ? to ? just beggars belief.
I know nothing of your gfp loophole benchmark.
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@yosarianilives more like a massive back pedal followed by damage control.
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there's some information pertaining to a similar issue in Windows 7 over on the new Discord server that may be helpful:
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the OCD has got the better of me
For the VGA details in this competition entry: https://hwbot.org/submission/4248268_cbjaust_3dmark11_physics_athlon_64_x2_4200_(windsor)_1424_points
please add "21162-00-50R" (without the quotes, obv.) to the Batch field.
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@err0r your screenshot at the imgur link is only a 750 kB .png file. Just upload that, much better than a cropped .jpg. Some of my screenshots are like 5 MB and hwbot will happily upload them.
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"hmmm, this seems dodgy... delete old scores, re-upload same scores in new season = profit. Scores get pinged. Remove scores, maybe lose a point or two here and there overall. Got plenty of points. Tornado ensues. Hailed as whistleblower = winner."
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@The_Silver that is not how the points are awarded. A new and improved score uploaded this season will make a certain amount of points and the previous score will have all points awarded set to zero. The new season ranking will be increased by the number of points awarded to the new score.
I just improved this score and it made 3.7 hardware points. My previous score now has zero points but it used to have 3.6 hardware points. My new score is now one of my top Top 30 Best Hardware Benchmark Results for 2020 with 3.7 points:
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12 minutes ago, delly said:
another doubt that came to my mind, I will give you an example to make me understand better:
cine15 7700k 1200pt in 2019
cine15 7700k 1150pt in 2020 with correct screen and everything (cpuz latest version etc)
the second would not give points because the old one is superior, but shouldn't it equally be valid for the 2020 season?Yes, that was the whole premise of the seasonal ranking; rebench and beat an old score, upload it and if it meets the requirements to add to the current season's points tally, profit. If you rebench and DON'T beat an old score no new points possible because your score would earn exactly zero for global, hardware, GTPP and TPP. If there was no seasonal ranking a new score less than an old score would most likely not be uploaded at all.
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8 minutes ago, bigblock990 said:
I see two scenarios of "sandbagging" and one scenario of cheating.
1)Uploading an old improved score because someone beat your old #1. This is real sandbagging, some people don't like it, but for me its perfectly acceptable.
2)Uploading an old improved score, beating your old score just to bump new season ranking. This is questionable to me, however I can't say its outright wrong.
3)Intentionally deleting old score, then re-uploading exact same score to bump season ranking. This is 100% unacceptable and should be fully considered cheating.
yep number two is a grey area but if repeating the points you mention in 1) and 3) gets people to take notice and realise the rights and wrongs of competitive benching, I'm all for it.
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15 minutes ago, delly said:you're right, but before today there was no rule about it, as soon as it was pointed out (yesterday) things changed, I myself promptly canceled all the results, others I don't know
mine was only a reasoning on the manageability of the proposed new rules, not on the fact that new rules served and are necessaryYes, that's all well and good, however just because there's no specific rule doesn't change the fact that resubmitting old scores is clearly against the spirit that hwbot is trying to cultivate here. We're not robots and we don't need an algorithm to determine our ethics.
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27 minutes ago, delly said:
the same thing that even half the hwbot community did last year, not just me ...
probably new rules were needed even before, only that I still don't understand how they are manageable
remove hardware and global from season and leaving only the competitions is the easiest way in my opinion, for those the personal career is fine
@delly doesn't make it right. The guidline at hwbot is to report such dodgy practices, not join them.
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having a repository of scores that are better than your published scores is one thing. Deleting old scores and re-uploading them for the new season is entirely different. The first one is a sort of insurance the second is outright fraud. I'm hoping that any 'deleted' scores are available for staff to see.
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@TAGG have you had the chance to work with CPU-Z Vintage Edition?
@KaRtA good suggestion, keeping the seasonal ranking to hardware and global points earned in competions plus the actual competion points as it is now is an interesting angle.
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3 minutes ago, yosarianilives said:
I think requiring extra stuff is stupid, personally I don't give a shit about my seasonal ranking so if I happen to sub outside of a comp I think I shouldn't be penalized for that. Obviously I assume if you use a 2020 comp background you won't need any other verification of year the bench was done
You do realise he submitted old scores that were apparently already in the system, yeah?
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You should have discussed the penalty for infractions. 6 week holiday?
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This is going to make the Splave USB obsolete
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Here's an idea, BAN the offender. It's not like it was one or two entries made in the last days of the previous year. No, it was 10 to 15 re-subs of scores made up to TWO years ago. Some of them are from running in competitions clearly showing the background required at the time. Flagrant disregard for the spirit of the seasonal competition. Terrible sportsmanship.
Edit: another idea, where Benchmate is applicable, make it a requirement and issue a new edition at the start of each year 00:00 UTC.
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Is it easy to set up so delly gets zero seasonal points for the whole of 2020? Probably not. Delly still shows seasonal points for all the re-subs. Should be reprimanded more strongly in my opinion.
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you might have to change the date of the system to get them to work...
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@_mat_ I sent a bug report for the same reason the other day. In my case it was with a Radeon HD 7990. "AMD Radeon HD 7900 Series" is never going to match the database's "Radeon HD 7970 X2 / 7990 / 8990" I guess.
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Add Port Royal to the Gpu Benchmarks?
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Same with XTU. That and PR probably conceived by their respective company's dirty tricks marketing departments.