der8auer

Great score man

pretty impressive iGPU man did you test how high you can go on air? I mean how much can you gain from air to LN2?

Just want to talk more about the "no need for OC anymore". Working at Caseking we have a lot of customers asking for OC. The funny thing is that they always just ask for CPU OC. Nobody cares about GPU Overclocking. Which is funny considering that 99% of the games today are GPU limited. It's even more funny when you take a look at the current hwbot situation. We know that the focus over the years went from multi GPU full-out to single GPU, to 2D. Kind of the opposite what you need for gaming.

A similar CPU was sold at HardwareLuxx Forums for 500€ about 3 months ago. His CPU did 5 GHz prime at 1,27 volt.

So far I didn't hear anything. I wouldn't expect anything big after computex.

np haha

It's part of a normal business cycle and necessary to keep a company alive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_cycle

I don't want to sound arrogant or anything like that but if someone doesn't have the money or is not willing to spend money - too bad. Might sound harsh but in the end overclocking is a technical sport (if you want to use the term sport). Everything in this hobby is about money and there is no way around it. There is no way someone can be first without investing a incredible amount of time and money. I know Daniel very well. He is not a rich guy or anything like that. He has 3 kids and a wife and his salary is for the whole family. So it's not like he is living an easy life. The point is that he is willing to spend everything he has left on overclocking and nothing else. And I'm talking even more about time and dedication than money. I have almost unlimited resources at Caseking but where am I in the ranking? I'm not saying it would be easy to beat Daniel even with unlimited resources, but he just has so much more dedication to benching than I have. So it's not only the money part that matters. But we can't change the whole ranking because you can't get LN2, no? I also overclocked a long time with DICE before I started with serious LN2 benching. You also have to know that it's not my main job to overclock with LN2. I overclock few days per month - not more. My main job is product development which is also related to my LN2 containers I did in the past and ofc my engineering degree. Back in ~2007 people binned less but it already started and it's a natural evolution like you said. If there is a way to do something better, people will do it. Especially overclockers are really mad when it comes to any kind of optimization I have to agree with you. Back in the days we were fighting against Andre Yang. Someone who has more money than the whole Top 20 combined haha. But people didn't complain as bad as today.

^^^^^^ this plus: Move away from the "ego sport". Everything at HWBOT is focused on individuals. Team doesn't matter whatsoever. Put the focus back on teams, too (new Team Ranking). Almost nobody starts LN2 as an individual. You need guys who back you up and show you how to do it. That's what a team is for.

PJ also needs Coke zero. No more normal coke for him

Yea /B was a special board for Opterons only while non B was for FX-7x CPUs

Nope. Still not correct

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MSI MS-6168 V1

nice one

I'm not participating but from a pure overclocking point of view I would allow the XOC validations. It's funny that you can even take a screenshot at the given clocks with paint and take your time while the validation without XOC has such a big load that it freezes. That's not really the point of a validation tho.

If you drill holes for surface area you should cut threads in there, too. Just to have more edges to break the film boiling.

I did some research about the leidenfrost effect on my university a while ago. The leidenfrost temperature mainly depends on the temperature difference between the copper and LN2 but also the shape/surface of the copper. This is an example (let's say Pot A). Section I is the part until the pot is completely filled with LN2. In Section II it turns into a linear cooldown which mainly depends on the surface area. In this case the cooldown was with 0.64 K/s. The linear cooldown (film boiling) will continue until you reach the leidenfrost temperature which was at about 50 K. Section III is called transition boiling and the LN2 will evaporate as soon as it hits the surface. A lot of benchers know this behavior and we call it "glace the pot". At around -50 °C you put the heatgut or torch in the pot to create a thin ice layer on the surface of the pot. For some strange reason it immediately bypasses the leidenfrost point and goes to transition boiling. I tried to reproduce this by changing the surface structure of the copper. E.g. with grinding, polishing, etching and all that kind of stuff. The problem is that you will always have the ice structure in the end. So it doesn't really make sense to improve it that way. The only thing you can change with surface area/structure is the linear area (Section II). The structure has to be as sharp as possible with a lot of edges and not too fine. A thread works well but it has to be a thread with a certain diameter. M10 or above should work fine.

Great result

pepper your angus

I also always used Riva Tuner for these old cards to set LOD. But what about the D3D9 Compatibility bits stuff? Still have to try nHancer tho.

^^^^^this Also try to avoid "round edges". You need sharp edges to break the leidenfrost effect. Just holes don't work that well.

GTX 295

I used RT for LOD but performance sucks hard in nature Missing 600 FPS lol. Thought it would be something like D3D9 compatibility bits thing.

I can't open the driver config with Nvidia Inspector. Is the driver just too old or am I missing something? Tried several different inspector versions.