Massman

Hey guys, Quick message to let you know we installed an iTrader plugin on the forum. We'll be testing it out and see if it has any value on the forum. Link here: http://forum.hwbot.org/itrader_main.php? :celebration:

Whoever hits 741 is going to take points from a lot of people

Updated with embed leaderboard

General Information This leaderboard is not available on hwbot.org The Global Masters is different from any other ranking at HWBOT. It features the leaderboard based on how you perform in global categories only, ranking overclockers by the total sum of global and wr points. The calculation of the GlobalMasters is thus as follows: GLM = SUM [All(global + wr)] Latest Standings Extra: 2D Global Masters Extra: 3D Global Masters

Found this on my Facebook feed, interesting stuff. Data comes from: http://esportsearnings.com/. World of Warcraft: 470K for 78 players in 17 tournaments Tekken 7: 75K for 9 players in 2 tournaments Wonder how they count the amount of players. Maybe they don't count the people who try to qualify for the tournaments?

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What's the code issue? I'll send an email to our partners to see if anyone's interested in putting up some prizes. Can't promise anything though ... Riva TNT and PCMark04 isn't particularly sexy these days

Moved the conversation to a different thread, hope you don't mind @Lugnik.

Slamming it! Nice!

The CPU-Z CPU information is missing

Does 0001 bios work? Did you just buy the CPU?

I get none of the references ... Tim's? Moose? Coach Manning?

All uploaded: http://downloads.hwbot.org/downloads/benchmarks/Intel%20XTU/XTU-Setup_2.1.408.35.exe http://downloads.hwbot.org/downloads/benchmarks/Intel%20XTU/XTU-Setup_3.2.0.24.msi http://downloads.hwbot.org/downloads/benchmarks/Intel%20XTU/XTU-Setup_4.0.6.102.exe http://downloads.hwbot.org/downloads/benchmarks/Intel%20XTU/XTU-Setup_4.1.0.12.exe http://downloads.hwbot.org/downloads/benchmarks/Intel%20XTU/XTU-Setup_4.2.0.8.exe http://downloads.hwbot.org/downloads/benchmarks/Intel%20XTU/XTU-Setup_4.3.0.11.exe http://downloads.hwbot.org/downloads/benchmarks/Intel%20XTU/XTU-Setup_5.1.0.23.exe http://downloads.hwbot.org/downloads/benchmarks/Intel%20XTU/XTU-Setup_5.1.0.101.exe http://downloads.hwbot.org/downloads/benchmarks/Intel%20XTU/XTU-Setup_5.1.1.25.exe http://downloads.hwbot.org/downloads/benchmarks/Intel%20XTU/XTU-Setup_5.1.2.2.exe Here are also some important announcements for compatibility with HWBOT upload function. - http://hwbot.org/newsflash/2844_xtu_5.1.2_now_available_for_download_updated_security_keys_older_versions_valid_for_only_3_months/

Some people were asking to split up the technical discussion of the Adjustment and the more philosophical discussion. Should be easier to discuss both!

Nice one Peet!

Thanks for your input Alex. Much appreciated! As you can see, this thread is an open dialogue to see what we can do with the algorithm before we put anything up for public vote. Changes will be necessary in the future as our database is growing faster than ever before. But it's best if these changes reflect what the broader community desires. Have a great 2016!

More like traveling abroad + Christmas + New Year. Drunk, I can neither confirm nor deny :celebration:

Last year we wanted to have an overall ranking too, but there was a code issue. Let's try to get that working fine for this season. As for prizes: we don't have much stuff in the office, but I guess we can start a prize pool anyone can contribute too?

We will announce the winners this week. Sorry for the delay, but moderators and staff are celebrating the end of the year holidays so things are moving a bit slower.

Whoah!

Anyone in touch with CPU-Z? @Christian_Ney?

Rollback done, points will return to normal very soon. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Important update on the Adjustment We discussed the adjustment for the points internally and one of the key problems with the current calculation method is that it's based mainly on the position of a result within a ranking. The consequence of this method is that a new, high score in the ranking will affect many other results and trigger the chain of updater and notification algorithms. For example, if you submit a #5 result in a ranking with 2000 participants, our server needs to: update the rank position for 1995 results recalculate the points for 1995 results update the league totals for 1995 users update the team league totals for ? teams store historical points information for 1995 results and users create notifications for the result, user and team In short: a ton of work. In the long run, this is not sustainable. This year we breached the barrier of 1.5 million benchmark results as 25,000 overclockers submitted about 350K results. That's a ton of recalculations, hence we're having recalculation slowdowns once in a while. Since we're trying to improve the points anyway, why not give it a shot. I spent this beautiful afternoon working on a new algorithm that takes into account two parameters: participants and a submission's score in relation to the top score. The algorithm I am playing with right now has the following characteristics: Same algorithm for Global and Hardware rankings GL Min Pts = 1 HW Min Pts = 0.1 Threshold for Global ranking is ~ 1000 participants Threshold for Hardware is ~ 55 participants GL reaches Min Pts at ~ 65-70% of top score, depending on popularity GL Points at 1000 participants for #1, #2, #3 are 150, 135 (90%), 127.5 (82.5%) HW Points at 55 participants for #1, #2, #3 are 50, 45 (90%), 42.5 (82.5%) Max points for #1 when 1, 10, 20, 30 participants is respectively: 3.9, 16.4, 26.7, 34.8 points. This is a pretty radical paradigm shift for HWBOT points. I want to emphasize that this is something that will be mandatory in the near future. No other way. These are some of the effects: Improving your score will always yield more points (except if you're #1) The only way to reduce your opponent's points is by improving the #1 score Equal score = equal points (ie. XTU 2xCPU -> top50 has 100pts) Less steep slope, so more points Top-3 always has an extra bonus A lot more points in HW rankings (easy 20pts), even for uncompetitive rankings As an example, I've taken three rankings from the database and plotted the points in Excel. The rankings are Fire Strike 1xGPU (Global), XTU 2xCPU (Global) and Fire Strike Extreme 1xGPU GTX 970 (Hardware). You can see the points plotted as position in the ranking for the three rankings below. CAVEAT: this is the first time I'm trying out this new algorithm, so please understand that I am aware that the scaling is far from perfect yet. There are three things I want to look into. First, used fixed multipliers for top-10 instead of top-3 to give higher reward for pushing into the top-10. Second, make a steeper slope for the categories with low participation so that being 1st out of 30 gives maybe 20 pts rather than 35. Three, find a way to ensure poorly scaling benchmarks (like XTU) don't generate so much points for everyone. (*) Anyway, that's it for this Sunday. See you all tomorrow! :celebration: (*): and of course find a way to include the parameter 'skill' somehow.

I just re-read my sentence. It does not make any sense at all ... I shouldn't edit parts of a sentence. What I wanted to say is: just like with any other memory type transition, the first gen of the new stuff is slower than the last gen of the old stuff. But from second and third generation, new stuff will beat old stuff.

Haswell within reach! Just goes to prove that, just like with any other new memory type launched, first generation ICs is fast enough but later gen is better.

Welcome to the forums, James!