Massman

Good idea!

I think we didn't make such a page to not put too much stress on the 'popular' hardware. Rather than using the term 'popular', we also prefer the term 'competitive'. That being said, I don't really mind making such a page. Updating it once a week wouldn't really hurt the server, I think. Not sure what RichBa5tard thinks of it.

Oh, just a question. Would I be allowed to submit my 1300MHz GTX480 to this retail-oc-website?

Wow, that is a lot of big words there. The message must be taken seriously for sure! (ed: just before I wanted to click 'post' I realized I'm not supposed to use sarcasm anymore. I meant: swearing normally doesn't help in forums) For one, that's not a paradox. A paradox would be benching with retail hardware that was sampled by the engineers. I'm sure that some would go to the other website and some won't, just like some watch Nascar, some watch F1 and some watch both. What disturbs me about what you are going to is that there are some people out there that consider the ES samples the biggest problem of their hobby, whereas I always figured it was just about having fun. In fact, in the early days of HWBOT, people didn't like the points because it gave overclocking a different, unpleasant dimension (hence why the 'no boints'-status was added). When it comes to hardware support, being either in the form of CPU or VGA, there are a few people out there that are nearly untouchable. It's up to you (and others) to determine whether that's solely because of the best hardware or also (maybe) because of their skill. Only thing I know is that when I'm benching I'm trying to improve my own ranking than desperatelly try to overcome the 'big guys'. Maybe I'm only 20th in AM3 or 15th in PiFast ... that doesn't really matter since I'm just trying to improve my own rank and help the team a bit. Although I only have acces to a limited supply of hardware, I managed to get into the top-10 one day and I was proud of that. Now, the way I see this maybe a little bit different than you guys. I don't really understand to what extent this complaint for getting things 'more fair' is really getting ... because it will never be fair and I'm sure you all know this as well. The best I can come up with is that removing the ES would give some kind of more bright dream about one day getting on the top of the rankings ... as if you'd have more chance on world records when there's retail only. Reality is a bit different: whoever is capable of binning A0 to the extreme, is also capable of binning B1 to the extreme. Whoever is capable of binning 100 video cards ... and so on. For the record, maybe it's also good to have a look at the current Aquamark standings. Although the A0 madness has been going on for quite a while now, quite a lot of the top-20 scores are in fact fully retail (11/20). Maybe it's not possible in all benchmark, but it is in some benchmarks ...

I can answer the easy questions. Manufacturer reps are watching the forums in case a more in-depth issue comes up.

The issue here is not the freaky ES, it's the bad ES that aren't being submit with.

No. This is about having fun.

Afaik we'll just add the category

Fixed

X5667 A0 = 6 core; X5667 B1 = 4 core :-/

You might wanna double-check those figures ... http://hwbot.org/community/submission/994830_deux_3dmark_2005_geforce_gtx_480_54913_marks

You can try not using an MSI board, but I don't think you'll be able to submit.

Oops ... the background. I knew I forgot something. Will upload tonight. MaxxMem shouldn't be buggy with older (read: supported) hardware. I suppose there's no problem for the Thuban, but if there is, we'll just have to look for a solution.

Irony strikes again. - cost to compete <<< prize to win - winning system = fully retail - putting effort into benching yields $1500 Maybe it's time for all the whiners out there to face the facts: with a bit of effort you could have been the winner of the $1500 ... Well done, Ryba!

You tried it like this? When you crash and board shuts down, you will need to do the same procedure.

CPUs are dead cheap ... worth the shot, I think.

Nice!

Prepping the system now for a bit of GTX480 clocking (got a card as a present for attending the MOA benelux final !). No LN2 right now, maybe on Wednesday.

It's not 'real' world record. It's just a very good score.

+1 for using retail!

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1213689

I heard a few people complain about the fact I was using slow-mode for the 250BCLK shots. Well - yes, slow mode doesn't work well for 3D, but seems efficient enough for 2D so it's kinda useful in some way. I've attached the phase change to the setup now and running a few more tests ... still running, but will post everything later tonight. In any case, here's the max BCLK for 3D

Drivers?

QPI voltage (VTT) isn't really helping a lot. I'm running 1.5V Vioh and 120MHz PCIe, but I can do same frequency at 110MHz as well The uncore on the retail looks a bit stronger, but I haven't tested the retail on subzero cooling yet so maybe it'll turn up okay. The main issue with the QPI I'm having right now is coldbooting over 4GHz QPI Link. This is something that can most likely be fixed by a bios update and I really hope it will be fixed. Haven't tested two sticks yet - will do so in the near future.

I don't have Bloomfield anymore