hipro5 Posted January 10, 2008 Author Share Posted January 10, 2008 @ hipro one more thing About this QX9650 ES .... Pcmagazine have send this cpu to unseen and doom before you gonna get this one ? Anyway when guys have take this cpu is wasent "your" CPU im right ?? That was "pcmagazine" property ONCE AGAIN, you KNEW that they BOTH USED THE EXACT SAME CPU and they have BOTH uploaded CPU related bencies and you have done/said NOTHING ABOUT THAT TILL NOW.......WHY?.....Aren't you following the rules of hwbot?...... Richbastard said (according to hwbot's rules) that ONLY ONE SET OF CPU benchies SHOULD be RUN with ONE CPU......That "CPU set" was MINE FIRST (you could check the dates of the resaults for it)..... imao quit smoking asap ...u will die soon enough before u will see the rise of AMD again ... lol To see WHAT?...... You remind me of our "dreamer esdee"..... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilCry Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 To see WHAT?...... You remind me of our "dreamer esdee"..... What's wrong to be a dreamer Hipro5.You were a dreamer too once upon a time and your dreams come true:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipro5 Posted January 10, 2008 Author Share Posted January 10, 2008 What's wrong to be a dreamer Hipro5.You were a dreamer too once upon a time and your dreams come true:p Nothing wrong at all......I was a dreamer and I still am..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monstru Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Now I see it all. All my respect hipro, it takes a great man to speak out his feelings like that, and it takes a great man to take time to prove something and not say it from the beginning. I am sorry if I ever misjudged you guys in this thread, it is clearly that some thing I had absolutely no idea about. RESPECT! Also......I am afraid that hipro really has a point here: IF you want to hear my TRULLY and HONESTLY oppinion.....Here it is: From the time hwbot "open it's gates" for "TEAMS", we (many of us) has lost friends from this...... TEAMS are "BAD"....ONLY INDIVIDUAL BENCHERS will keep things straight, clean, and FRIENDLY MOST OF ALL..... This is my oppinion though with simple and straight words.... EDIT: By saying that teams are "bad", I don't mean that they are bad BUT that teams seperates people (if you can understand what I mean)..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_M Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Can i make a comment that is nothing to do with any particular team: The moment a team starts to think of ways to maximise their point any other way than just good old individuals benchmarking, then trouble is brewing. Sure go ahead and have team benches, while it does complicate things only slightly more than individuals, just do it cleanly and with no intent to maximise team points. Much like that session i recently did in Taiwan where i claimed all the points and my benchpartner claimed none, or another session in Aus with all of Team.AU where the owner of the hardware claimed the points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleven Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 // Problem has already been discussed in PM with Hadji_a ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipro5 Posted January 10, 2008 Author Share Posted January 10, 2008 According to the existing rules - if you like - of hwbot, ONLY ONE CPU MUST have cpu related benchies.... The above benchies where done with the EXACT SAME CPU that it has ALREADY UPLOADED RESAULTS to hwbot and it's "forbiden" to re-upload any other cpu related benchies with the SAME one.... It doesn't matter by whom it was given.....It matters that it was THE EXACT SAME CPU..... By saying this, I just want to say that this hwbot rule is not "accurate"..... What if I sell MY CPU to another user of my team?.....can't he upload his resaults with HIS (now for example) CPU?.... Thanks Monstru . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unseen Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I am waiting some explanations from hwbot crew about removing some scores from my account without EVEN send me a pm or email. The scores were with a qx9650 that was given from intel to pcmagazine and then to me as i am a reviewer for them. After some days i returned it to pcmag. I can scan documents from my company that proves my words. After that i dont know where is the cpu. And of course all the hardware that i am benching with is from the magazine. Also i want explanations about removing 3D scores that i had from the last event. Only me has upload them and all the hardware was provided by the multirama shop. I want FULL explanations please and i hope my words count the same with the "other" members. Thanks Christos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipro5 Posted January 10, 2008 Author Share Posted January 10, 2008 You know that the CPU you got from PCMagazine.gr was the one that I have benched two weeks or so before that....So where is the wrong here by following the hwbot one rule?.... ONE CPU can have cpu related benchmarks....At least this is what I understand till now.... Though this rule must change cuz it's not accurate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 This rule applies to team benching and as far as I know you guys are not in the same team. Little mistake, I assume, but RB is clearing this up with hadji_a, Unseen . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleven Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 // Problem has already been discussed in PM with Hadji_a ... First of all thanks for deleting my post............. I wasnt refering to the loss of points by deleting the results but at richba5tard's action to delete them with out asking any kind off explanations. just by Hipro DEMAND i dont know about the Problem that has already been discussed in PM with Hadji_a because i cant get in contact with him a.t.m but i belive this kind of action from richba5tard's side is somethink to concern the hole HW bot community Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unseen Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 @h5 Sorry my friend but i havent ask your opinion. I can't do everytime research about the hardware i am getting before benching. That cpu was nobody's property. It was a reviewing sample for the magazine and i can proove that with papers. I am waiting the OFFICIAL answer from hwbot crew about my results. Probably i am not allowed to bench from now on because i dont buy hardware. My msn is unseen@in.gr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AN7 OverClocker Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 @h5 Sorry my friend but i havent ask your opinion. I can't do everytime research about the hardware i am getting before benching. That cpu was nobody's property. It was a reviewing sample for the magazine and i can proove that with papers. I am waiting the OFFICIAL answer from hwbot crew about my results. Probably i am not allowed to bench from now on because i dont buy hardware. My msn is unseen@in.gr You knew that the cpu the one that hipro benched. Didn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyrus Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I think Unseen got a good point here. If it is the same cpu but a third person is owned this (pc-magazine) then it is legal unseen's result and also hipro's. The rule is for the same team but for different teams it does not matter (is it as selling to a third-unrelated person). So the points are not calculated for one team with same cpu where we have the problem so far. @Hipro i think the rule you mentioned has a black hole (it should work within team but not outside team) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipro5 Posted January 10, 2008 Author Share Posted January 10, 2008 This rule applies to team benching and as far as I know you guys are not in the same team. Little mistake, I assume, but RB is clearing this up with hadji_a, Unseen . I assume that this post of Massman have cleared things up..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unseen Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 @an7 I informed about that the day i got it. Why should i consider that? We are in different team and the cpu was no ones property. And of course if you dont have anything else that counts in current situation please dont quote me again. My questions are reffering to hwbot crew and not to HOT members. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AN7 OverClocker Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 you are at HOT's thread m8. If you dont want, dont post here.Simple things PS.I dont care about the points or the results. But i was just wondered And as you said "Αυτο που μου αρεσει περισσοτερο ειναι οτι ειμαστε μια παρεα Στο διαολο ρε οι ποντοι!(What I like more is that we are a company,f(l)uck the points) !" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF3D Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Unseen- Your scores are valid and we did too quick conclusions with them. Those scores will be unblocked soon. We all apologise for this confusion. Elefsinaras and Giorgos. I made mistake with your results. They are done separately. Sorry about that! To all: This thread is too large considering what was the problem, but there is also something good in here. Some users post their ideas and development proposals. We have to start new thread, where users can tell their ideas about these issues we have at the moment. We are trying to do new rules soon, so everyone knows what is right and what is wrong when submitting results. After that HWbot should be even more fair to everyone and for every team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unseen Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 @an7 I wont be in conversation with you. Sorry for that and stop teasing me and my team members. @SF3D Apologies accepted. Hoping for better communication in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AN7 OverClocker Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 @an7 I wont be in conversation with you. Sorry for that and stop teasing me and my team members. @SF3D Apologies accepted. Hoping for better communication in the future. Me, teasing you and your team members? Just omg This is the problem. We never had a conversation.....an open conversation and look how things are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Sir AN7_OverClocker, this has been the last post of you that has nothing to do with the issue of hardware sharing in this thread. Understood?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AN7 OverClocker Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Why sir Massman you have this style? My apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthtony Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 @Massman Please can you clear out the curent rules for hardware sharing&team benching (with examples)? please :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Summarized the rules regarding team benching like they are now. Some need to be re-written or add some line to + need to add sponsored events. These rules are about CPU and GPU, not motherboards/ram/tweaks. Bench alone: - post results with your own hardware - post results with hardware you have for review, send by the manufacturer himself - FORBIDDEN: post results not done by you / not your hardware. Bench session with more than 1 person: - post result to account of owner of the hardware (3d: vga, 2d: cpu) - when sli bench with two owners (each one card) post result to one account (you can chose which account) - FORBIDDEN: post multiple results of the same session spread over different accounts - FORBIDDEN: share cpu on 2D and/or gpu on 3D benches with team members to gain more points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyrus Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I want a clear out on this: I have one cpu on my own for example E6850. I have post all my 3D results with this cpu. Someone from my team is giving me a QX9650 to play. Can i bench again 3d with this cpu (but the gpu is mine and is used again)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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