Massman Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 My question is: has these benches been done with your (read: do you own?) cpu?
hipro5 Posted January 11, 2008 Author Posted January 11, 2008 To put it out in results: Someone else, of your team, benching with YOUR GPU and therefor hardware sharing http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=679384 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=676995 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=679524 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=679525 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=676968 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=679526 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=676965 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=679390 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=676974 I REPEAT MYSELF....... ALL THE ABOVE WERE DONE WITH THE VGAs I DON'T USE for hwbot to get points for MYSELF....... Can't you understand that?.....Is it ILLEGAL for hwbot?....Cuz IF NOW you will call it "illegal" then you MUST re-read what you have writen some pages before..... Someone else, of your team, benching with YOUR CPU and therefor hardware sharing http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=677015 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=676992 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=676961 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=679477 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=679457 Correct me if I'm wrong Which of ALL THEM again?....
Massman Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 I repeat my question: Are the benches done with your CPU? (any cpu you own)
hipro5 Posted January 11, 2008 Author Posted January 11, 2008 I want a clear out on this:I have one cpu on my own for example E6850. I have post all my 3D results with this cpu. Someone from my team is giving me a QX9650 to play. Can i bench again 3d with this cpu (but the gpu is mine and is used again)? Yes, but you can't submit 2D results with the QX9650. .
hipro5 Posted January 11, 2008 Author Posted January 11, 2008 So Massman as you say, I could lend MY CPU to my teamates to bench with their VGAs BUT upload ONLY the 3D Benhies right?... You can share your CPU for 3D and VGA'S for 2D ( but in the second i can't see the reason to do that) .
hipro5 Posted January 11, 2008 Author Posted January 11, 2008 And the 2D benchmarks? I REPEAT MYSELF....... ALL THE ABOVE from giorgos th., WERE DONE WITH THE VGAs I DON'T USE for hwbot to get points for MYSELF....... Is it ILLEGAL for hwbot?....Cuz IF NOW you will call it "illegal" then you MUST re-read what you have writen some pages before. Let's go for the VGAs now.... .
Massman Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 I'm talking about the SUPERPI/PIFAST/CPU-Z/... => Are the QX9650 scores done with your cpu?
hipro5 Posted January 11, 2008 Author Posted January 11, 2008 I'm talking about the SUPERPI/PIFAST/CPU-Z/... => Are the QX9650 scores done with your cpu? They were done NOT with MY CPU that I HAVE ALREADY UPLOADED scores to MY account BUT with OTHER CPUs that I HAVE NEVER used OR UPLOAD ANY results on hwbot for MYSELF..... .
Massman Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 Okay, that's the answer I wanted on 24th of December
hipro5 Posted January 11, 2008 Author Posted January 11, 2008 Okay, that's the answer I wanted on 24th of December I was too buzy you know.....Now that I'm a bit relaxed, I'll be here and there....
F117 Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 massman if it is possible can you answer my question plz
Massman Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 I was too buzy you know.....Now that I'm a bit relaxed, I'll be here and there.... C'mon, you replied to my PM's on XS
T_M Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 So in summary of the last two pages, Hipro is sharing his hardware that is not being used by himself to gain scores on hwbot. The quesiton is the legality of this.
F117 Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 why this should be illegal? what is the problem? if this is illegal then only if you can afford buying one top VGA (280E+) you can bench? :-S :-S wowwwwww..... money talks! :-S
hipro5 Posted January 11, 2008 Author Posted January 11, 2008 C'mon, you replied to my PM's on XS Yes because it was FAST....... I wanted to write down ALL the things I wrote on that LONG post of mine PLUS I HAD to be ready and free to reply back.....
Guest GoriLLakoS Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 Ok, i just read the whole topic,the last time i read it, the last page was page 13..now i see page 20. Should i start writting down everything or it is ok to leave it like it is now cause everyone has clamed down? It will be a huge story but a clear one from my point of view! So, it may be wrong to some others! If you want i can do it but my "Gorillakos" name will be "damaged" to many users eyes..and maybe to my fellows eyes also. I can do it if you want so. I don't give a shit for my name in this Visual(Internet) world...it is not my real world...just a f*cking fake world that ppl is fighting, FOR NOTHING ! Writting the truth about everything is too easy for me behind a keyboard and a monitor..but then, i will dissapear...
SF3D Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 Ok, i just read the whole topic,the last time i read it, the last page was page 13..now i see page 20. Should i start writting down everything or it is ok to leave it like it is now cause everyone has clamed down? It will be a huge story but a clear one from my point of view! So, it may be wrong to some others! If you want i can do it but my "Gorillakos" name will be "damaged" to many users eyes..and maybe to my fellows eyes also. I can do it if you want so. I don't give a shit for my name in this Visual(Internet) world...it is not my real world...just a f*cking fake world that ppl is fighting, FOR NOTHING ! Writting the truth about everything is too easy for me behind a keyboard and a monitor..but then, i will dissapear... Please tell us what you know! It's important But, don't disappear after that
darthtony Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 Your posts sounds really negative man.HWB primarily relies on the honesty of the users, that is no secret, and massman has written already many times a good response for this. I think that most users here are honest, but some of them may not be!
knopflerbruce Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 So in summary of the last two pages, Hipro is sharing his hardware that is not being used by himself to gain scores on hwbot.The quesiton is the legality of this. I think this discussion has missed something important: the problem isn't that someone has like 4 spare qx9650 without any hwbot scores that he decides to let members of his team use for a session. What's importnant to avoid is that the SAME CPU is used several times within the same team. I'm sorry, but I don't see ANY reason why someone can't share a piece of HW that hasn't been used to make points here in the past. The ownership rule was made to avoid people sharing GOLDEN chips, not spare chips they won't use for hwbot anyway.
darthtony Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 if I upload many scores from my cpu in my account, only the highest counts?
Massman Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 if I upload many scores from my cpu in my account, only the highest counts? Yes
Spyrus Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 Also i would point that from the rules posted earlier i can have another person's memories and/or mobo and/or cooling (for example someone is giving me his HSF/watecooling only for benching) and still be valid when posting with my cpu and/or vga. Is that correct?
Guest GoriLLakoS Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 @SF3D I will tell you what i think and not what i know cause i will have a day to write them all down(expect if you give me your phone to call you ) Those guys that are fighting,visible or not , before 4(? more or less) years were the base for the very well known(and for me the site with the most valuable information and the biggest database regarding OC in Greece) IT site aka http://www.thelab.gr. Base = The people that knows the most things and always helped the others. They were friends, they were together, they were exchanging ideas, they were talking on the phone, they were benching under the same family. All of us changed for various reasons. There are not main and secondary reasons. Every reason "helped"(in a bad way) little by little to come to this situation. And as you can understand no one want to say "I am Sorry Dude" or "Let's make a new start" cause the ego of every one is so high that no one wants to step back. This thread has gone far more than OFF TOPIC , and the last pages describes the Greek-Serial-For-Nothing silly war and not a set of new rules or how we can imporve hwbot engine nor the scores. I am trying to be outside this war but it is not always easy to forget people that always "teasing" you or your team. Everyone knows i am to HOT, i support them, i am a good friend of hipro who is too nasty many times and i am telling him to be nice but he has almost the double age of me so he is old enough to know what is he doing or know when he has right or rong, i am a friend of AN7 who is always fighting for HOT and many of the times he is doing like crazy without reason and everytime i am telling him to relax, i know in personal Mariosalice who seems to telling insane things but if you see carefully his post you will understand that he is not insane, but he analyses everything too much and searching infos from everywhere and post them. I admit that from my job many times i give hipro hardware to test and bench for his own and i will continue doing it. I admit that i have given mortisboy, who is an administrator also to hwbox.gr a set of 2900 to bench. I admit that i have unlimited access to tons of hw and i am able right now to ask for 20 QX9650 and send 10 to outofspecs and 10 to HOT or give it to 20 different members to make scores. Going to the "other side" now i know in personal but not as much as the HOT guys(cause of the distance and only) Unseen, Eleven,Xrist,Doom and some others. Telling my thinking for them is the same as hipro And AN7. Unseen is doing like crazy many times but as hipro is doing he knows when he has right or wrong but do not admit it. Xrist is maybe the less negative person of OFS. Obijuan is excactly the same with AN7 and always creating mess. But this fight here has gone beyond HWBOT Points and reports, has gone beyond from Thelab Vs Outofspecs, has gone beyond HOT Team VS OFS Team. This fight is based more on personal reasons and stubborn behaviours than teams, geographical areas and points. The older memebrs of the sites/teams knows better the behind scene story, the new guys get fanatic with the olders and just go with the flow so they can fit better the "system" be one with "it" and not "exclude" them from the mass. That is the everyday behaviour of a people that wants to enter a "new world" and it is not happening only in forums. I have talked with hipro to change the HOT name and rename ot to something else cause overclocking is not an Ethnic Matter it is a hobby matter. The reason i asked hipro to thing of the change is that i have talked with some of the OFS members and they told me that most of them are benching for fun and not for something else and would like to join HOT or even better HOT and OFS memebrs will join a new team but not with the name HOT cause many people consider that HOT means Hipro Overclocking Team and not Hellas Oc Team. Furhtermore, as you have seen HOT has like the central page the hipro-tech page which has nothing but cause made this team in order to connect all the greek teams it finally came like this. The answer for those members on OFS was that" "We are friends, we are going for cofee/drinks/food/ every Friday almost all together and you can understand Bill(Bil = Me) that we cannot leave the team like this if it not an option that all of us want because maybe we will stop our friendship with the others or the members that will stay behind they will not treat us or look at us like friends any more. Hipro from his side, he refused. But i think if most of the people support the idea for changing the name and have a unique team he wouldn't be so negative. I do not want to fight with my teammates nor with OFS members. I do not want to fight with hipro and AN7 or Unseen(m8, you fought with hipro, not with me, i feel something like cold in your last pm to me to thelab, and i do not repsesent no one except by myself aka Bill) and Obijuan. If a solution to be the same with everybody is to delete from my "face" the name HOT, i will do it and remove all of my scores! And if the situation will remain the same btw me and the others and btw the teams/sites again, i will push more and more people to remove their scores from bot and never replace them untill we get like the old times. I would be very happy if i see HOT and OFS to last place of bot together with -1 points. Cause everyone is telling "We are doing it not for the points" but it seems everyhting stands for the points and it is A FALSE BULLSHIT THAT ALL THE FINGERS CAN WRITE EASILY ON A KEYBOARD OR ALL THE MOUTHS CAN SAY WITH TOO MUCH EASE. Some people is creating all those things but they are not visible. Some people is telling bullshit in 3rd party sites, out of ofs and thelab.gr and then others form those 2 are reading them and thinking that those are words from others. Many times, the brain of the members is too much overwhelmed that is thinking of fantastic situations. Some times HOT and OFS ppl are writting to their site fucking horrible things but they know that HOT are not writing to OFS forum and vice versa so they are sure enough that they will read it and get upset and vice versa again. But once more, this is a HUGE matter that does not concern hwbot, and it is distgusting to read people 20/30/40/50/60 years old that behave like 5 -10 years old children. I am finished with my written thoughts. Whoever from the 2 teams want to say me a jurk, all of you have my phone number and it is open to hear you and your thoughts. Ciao Bill
knopflerbruce Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 check the meaning of boints to find out how, read my signature to start with. Well, it's not 100% true, I have 300 points flat... Guess why? And I'm like... what? 130th? So atm 130th place is as high as you can get without a "big" wallet;)
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