xxbassplayerxx Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) Hey all, Since Bull is playing with other boards right now I figured I'd share my journey with this board. I received it yesterday and just got a few minutes to tweak before I had to call it a night. Using BIOS F5 (newest), there are still a few things to iron out. Issues (possibly user error, still new to the board): RTL and IOL 55 every time I touch them, even if I set them to the same values it had set automatically. EDIT: I've been told this may be due to setting just RTL and leaving IOL on auto. Will verify this evening if setting them both manually fixes the issue. tCWL was unbootable at 9, which many others are running at much higher frequencies tWTR_L defaults to 12 if I set 10 or 11. Haven't tried other values yet. Don't have a Pi OS put together for SKL yet... just running on a dirty W7 for now. Only tweaked primary and secondaries, not very tight. RTL and IOL are auto for the time being. Kingston 3333C17 1.35V MFR @ 3333 13-15-15 28 1T @ 1.50V Edited November 5, 2015 by xxbassplayerxx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splave Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 does it still have an issue at c12 3000/3200 no possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxbassplayerxx Posted November 5, 2015 Author Share Posted November 5, 2015 I'll check this evening! BIOS F5 on the OC Force is much better than the earlier BIOSes I had on the UD5. I have high hopes for the BIOS team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxbassplayerxx Posted November 6, 2015 Author Share Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) Definitely can't touch RTL/IOL. Set only IOL, no go, set only RTL, no go. Set both, no go. 55 on all. EDIT: @Splave, best I could do was 3100C12. Edited November 6, 2015 by xxbassplayerxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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xxbassplayerxx Posted November 6, 2015 Author Share Posted November 6, 2015 Good to see you here. I gave up on MFR for a bit to test my new Samsung kit. Running 4000 16-20-20 28 1T right now. Secondaries and tertiaries are really loose but it's pretty cool running this high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhenzjhen Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Some testing 101 here also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lays Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I will periodically check here as well, hey bassplayer The board looks interesting, hope to see some great results Anyone know how much it will cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeropluszero Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 A fortune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxbassplayerxx Posted November 6, 2015 Author Share Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) Great news! Figured out how to set RTL and IOL! Turns out GB has them in a different order with different labels. Here's an image that has the ASRock labels on it so you know how to enter them when looking at Timing Configurator: EDIT: And reversed in text to match ASRock... be very careful not to mix up the zeros and ones. RTL (CHA) D0 = Round Trip Latency (DIMM0/Rank0) D1 = Round Trip Latency (DIMM1/Rank0) RTL (CHB) D0 = Round Trip Latency (DIMM0/Rank1) D1 = Round Trip Latency (DIMM1/Rank1) IO-L (CHA) D0 = IoLatR0D0 D1 = IoLatR0D1 IO-L (CHB) D0 = IoLatR1D0 D1 = IoLatR1D1 EDIT 2: This post is incorrect. Please see post # 26 below for the correct information. Edited November 13, 2015 by xxbassplayerxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxbassplayerxx Posted November 6, 2015 Author Share Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) Got a few more results last night. Still nothing too great. It turns out the board was setting extremely high RTL's but they were about the best it could do, even with manual tuning. I'm going to get everything as tight as possible for routine 32M passes and then compare to other boards. After a little bit of tweaking secondaries (and a nap), here are last night's results. Still junk OS, for the time being: G.Skill 3600 Samsung E-Die kit @ 3866 15-19-19 28 1T - 1.65V Notes: At 3866 @ 1.65V, I could not pass with tCWL 12 and would fail boot ~50% of the time. tCWL 13 is perfectly stable. tRRD_L & tRRD_S in BIOS do not correspond with tRRD_L & tRRD_S in Timing Configurator. Haven't figured out how to change them yet. I was unable to tweak better than 64-56-64-57-4-6-4-6 on RTL's and IOL's @ 3866 @ 1.65V. vDIMM was 1.65V, SA was 1.26V, and IO was 1.22V. More testing to come after the weekend! Edited November 6, 2015 by xxbassplayerxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxbassplayerxx Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 Got Windows XP installed and playing around with 5G 32M on my 6600K using BIOS X08. Once I figure out how to recover my other partitions, I'll transfer some screen shots over. The second RTL won't set though... If I enter 50/50/56/57/4/4/6/6 I get 50/65/56/57/4/4/6/6. Kind of annoying atm but I'm going to keep playing with it. There are a number of other timings that aren't showing (or possibly setting) right with ASRock's Timing Configurator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustytheclown Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 In order to change rtl and iol's in the giga board you have to change the first option for them in each mem tab. You have to set these two settings for both channels seperately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxbassplayerxx Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) Well that seems odd. I'll give it a try this evening. Thanks! Results-wise, I'm getting about 5:15 through 32M at 5 GHz with no wazza, loose secondaries, and no tertiaries beyond half-set RTL/IOL. Need to order a PCI-E USB card! EDIT: Just ordered. Edited November 12, 2015 by xxbassplayerxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Good luck bass look forward to seeing your results man,I'm not sure how that board trains rtls but I would try what crusty says as the guy knows his stuff he's a very good overclocker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxbassplayerxx Posted November 13, 2015 Author Share Posted November 13, 2015 Thanks Bull. Any chance at you getting one of these and helping out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxbassplayerxx Posted November 13, 2015 Author Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) Setting the RTL's on the second page worked! Now I just have to experiment to see how much I can bring them down Only had about 20 minutes to test tonight. Still loose on seconds and thirds. Working my way around BIOS. Clean OS but no wazza. Edited November 13, 2015 by xxbassplayerxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustytheclown Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I 'll join in later today. I have the ln2 in my hands and it is a beast!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Thanks Bull. Any chance at you getting one of these and helping out? No mate Im happy with my asrock board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustytheclown Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 You can also try to set the iol's to 6 and let the rtl's at auto man and see what the mb sets. That's a nice place to start from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxbassplayerxx Posted November 13, 2015 Author Share Posted November 13, 2015 You can also try to set the iol's to 6 and let the rtl's at auto man and see what the mb sets.That's a nice place to start from. The MB was setting RTL's in the 70's on its own. I need to spend some time with the board but I keep going out of town on the weekends! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustytheclown Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 If you set IOL's at 6 it keeps giving you 70's? Change the IOL's manually and RTL's auto and see what it gives you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxbassplayerxx Posted November 13, 2015 Author Share Posted November 13, 2015 I'll give it another go on Monday. There's also the nasty problem of not being able to lower Cas. I was hoping to get everything else tightened down then have a go at it again but setting anything lower than 15 is an instant 55, even with volts up to 1.95V. I know BIOS F5 is better for memory but you can't run it with XP on the native ports. Sounds like we need a new X BIOS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustytheclown Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Does this mb has boot mem voltage option? Try tingling with this if it does do not leave it auto. Also try loosing your trdwr they seem tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxbassplayerxx Posted November 13, 2015 Author Share Posted November 13, 2015 Yup! It has the boot voltage. Will push this around. Also, believe it or not, all tertiaries are still on auto. Haven't got to tuning them yet. I'll back those off a bit. I read in Alex's guide that they should be close or equal to CAS and mine are lower so I'll give that a go. Hopefully next week I can devote a few hours each night to this. Kinda driving me crazy that I've had the board for about a week and still don't have my timings nailed down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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