Wizerty Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 @Nik : You can't compare 2chip. Pentium or Celeron can't reach 8G, and after many CPU, someone find @8Ghz chip... 8G is not easy, but then, someone find 8.2 chip, and then 8.4 chip... Same with all generation, REALLY good ivy did 7Ghz cpu-z, and then someone find 7Ghz+ 32m and 7.1 1M... same with haswell vivi got golden cpu, then Dancop find GEM... If you can run 5.2, some chip can probably run 5.3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvidiaforever2 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) i don t like to talk to haters but it looks like u re having fun here . 5.3ghz is easy for me with iced water : Edited December 8, 2015 by nvidiaforever2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Hater? Why? I think icewater is a extremcooling, thats Not the normal watercooling. Extremcooling <20C Watercooling >20C Very nice score, but i think thats cooling mod its not ok for this Cup. Greez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvidiaforever2 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) U're not the one making the rules . Ice bucket as always been allowed for enthusiasts or rookies And rules says 20°C load for xtu : Limitations The CPU load temperature must be higher than 20°C Christian ney : "For XTU: under load For other bench: Min Just like it's written in the OP " For now i m just wondering how u can bench with higher frequency on x265 when my cpu is way better than yours . Edited December 8, 2015 by nvidiaforever2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerotracks Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I'm with you on this except for the part that, by looking at your rig pic, your ice bucket seems to be quite invisible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvidiaforever2 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 look at the rules again rig picture is not needed for xtu . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raules009 Posted December 8, 2015 Author Share Posted December 8, 2015 Hater? Why? I think icewater is a extremcooling, thats Not the normal watercooling. Extremcooling <20C Watercooling >20C Very nice score, but i think thats cooling mod its not ok for this Cup. Greez extreme cooling is <0c look at my i7 6700K 5.2 GHz temp min 14°c temp max 70°c http://img.hwbot.org/u45698/image_id_1541708.jpeg the CPU also makes 5,2ghz "1.58v real voltage = 1.6v" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvidiaforever2 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Raules u shouldn't start here . Go to your own topic . My cpu can do geekbench with less voltage than that and u re benching x265 with 140 mhz more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 U're not the one making the rules . Ice bucket as always been allowed for enthusiasts or rookiesAnd rules says 20°C load for xtu : Limitations The CPU load temperature must be higher than 20°C Christian ney : "For XTU: under load For other bench: Min Just like it's written in the OP " For now i m just wondering how u can bench with higher frequency on x265 when my cpu is way better than yours . Wondering Sure? I not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerotracks Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 look at the rules again rig picture is not needed for xtu . Clever, but that's not the issue lol Hiding the ice bucket & making it look like a normal WC sub shows whether or not you give a sh't about fair play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtsurfer Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 i don t like to talk to haters but it looks like u re having fun here .5.3ghz is easy for me with iced water : Forgive me, where exactly can I see the ICE bucket in that video. Also, if you went through the trouble of making a video to prove that you are right, then why not wait till the run finishes & show the final score with it.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest george.kokovinis Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Well... To tell you the truth folks, I would possibly think of putting my hands in sh*t for a million $$$, but for a mobo and some ram sticks....WELL NO !!! Cheapo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvidiaforever2 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Forgive me, where exactly can I see the ICE bucket in that video. Also, if you went through the trouble of making a video to prove that you are right, then why not wait till the run finishes & show the final score with it.? i wasted enough time and i won t rebench and remount everything just to make u happy . Now i'm done here so have fun . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtsurfer Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 i wasted enough time and i won t rebench and remount everything just to make u happy .Now i'm done here so have fun . Your wish. But with the amount of rad space you demonstrated in that video, it can't be brought to 18C with ICE bucket. So you are using a chiller or something else. In conclusion, that video proved nothing. Peace out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Strunkenbold Posted December 8, 2015 Crew Share Posted December 8, 2015 Funny those discussions come up again and again. There are already so many threads around here and every new questionable results raises the question if enthusiast league just has bad rules or is in general redundant. Personally I see no point in enthusiast league. I think it just stops people trying out extreme cooling methods cause they fear loosing their position in enthusiast ranking. Also we all have some different understanding what an enthusiast actually is... When I look back, I see nvidia made outstanding results with haswell too. He has some excellent tweaking skills, but we all know if you have a bad CPU all your skills are useless. (Except you are a wizard turning bad silicon into outstanding one.) What does that mean? You already guess it: Binning. And for me this is extreme and thats why enthusiast league is a joke. If someone is using a chiller in enthusiast league you are breaking the rules but the simple truth is: Who can check if someone is using a chiller or if he/her just opens a windows because he/her lives in Siberia? If its really cold out there you can actually can go way below -10°C in your loop. What would u say if someone tells you that he cools his PC with -15°C cold water/alcohol/freeze protection? Wouldnt you say "Wow, thats kinda extreme!" ?? The question for competitions is, are we all playing fair? How do we enforce the rules? Can we at all? I personally would wish, if someone is playing with ice buckets he should show it on the picture because he has to show his _whole_ system. And I think ice buckets are an essential part. Given the fact that this is about $$$ in those competitions we should be all a little bit more sensitive to such things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaRtA Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 The arrogance and lack of wanting to show fully makes it look more like he is hiding simething. If you have nothing to hide, then show us all to shut us up. Appreciate the video. Also, comp is messed up. Rules tab in esport states min temp, discussion tab has max temp >20. Not your fault, which leaves this open to the moderators to decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GtiJason Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 This vid seems to show things better, hwbot makes the rules but on this particular subject are very unclear. When I was in Novice I was told I could use ice bucket but not chiller. The rules for league need a solid foundation and this needs to be carried into all comps. There has got to be a league standard so in the future things are as obvious as a homerun (without fan interaction) . It's not really up to me to judge anyones ethics and wish rules were more clear cut and this is why on the last day of being in novice I decided to skip Enthusiast and jump to Extreme. I knew that I wanted unrestricted access to squeezing performance from my hardware, and also realized that if you want to become more involved in this industry and possibly attract sponsors etc. that being #1 in the US in enthusiast won't get you there but being top 10 in your country might. I may not be running ln2 every week, and still enjoy benching w my rad hanging out my window this time of year... all while not worrying about breaking rules. It's nice to know I can dip my rads in buckets of dice if that's what i want to do . One ? though, is using slow mode for XTU legit, I thought in a previous comp we were told the cpu frequency line in the graph had to be visible and remain constant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No1Spank Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) I take my rig outside to my van sometimes in winter, lowest ambient temp so far 2 degrees C as you have to be out there with it I don't fancy being colder. I grew up in a 200 year old farm house with no heating and once had -10 degrees C in my bedroom, would I have had to wait until spring to be an enthusiast overclocker? My idle temp with Sempron 145 and a large fan blasting the heat sink is just under 20 degrees. I've run benches inside first with exact same hardware and found the drop in temps is worth roughly 2 - 3 mhz on the BLK so not a major difference. I thought the enthusiast league was all about keeping cost down and things simple so a novice doesn't run as big a risk of damaging hardware if they make a mistake. I want to try a TEC cooler but don't know what I'm doing and would rather have someone show me how to set one up before doing it myself. I don't want to rely 100% on the internet and wreck my hardware as I only bench kit I use (or have used) in my own gaming rigs or occasionally bits from rigs I am building for other people. I can't afford to replace fried parts. Edited March 19, 2016 by No1Spank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No1Spank Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) Somebody call nvidiaforever out to a live competition. If they had them where I live I'd love to take part, even just going head to head with one person either with my own rig or some pre selected binned parts would be good fun. For me that is where it's at if overclocking ever gets big enough. The great thing about live head to head competition is there is nowhere to hide. Edited March 19, 2016 by No1Spank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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