noizemaker Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) --- For Ambient behavior there is again another guide from Falkentyne in the OCN.NET forum -> LINK --- -- BIOS FLASHBACK PORT Red marked is the BIOS FLASHBACK PORT, Rename your File to MZ790A.CAP before flashing. -- Mainboard Buttons / Measurement -- Microcode Switch There is a new feature for switching the Microcode on the current BIOS, current is default (no need to switch for now) -- Safe Boot Mode If you change the BIOS slot and then restart the motherboard, the first boot will automatically start with the safe boot mode. So if you forget to reset ln2 settings nothing can happen on ambient ? -- MC SP Check Tests the MC solely, without touching the DRAM (you can even remove the dram while its testing) , same mc on different boards/dimms should give similar score Tests the FMax of an MC at a fixed low SA voltage. In the same way you test a core's fmax at a low voltage idling. Since there is an element of luck when testing FMax like you would when running for a cpuz record, the outcome will not be 100% the same everytime and score will shift a little. Temperature affects FMax but the effect is weighted and the maximum package temperature during the training is taken into account to generate an unbiased score. -- LN2 behavior With the new crazy clocks unfortunately comes a problem that about 2/3 of the CPUS have a hard CB. No RSVD switch or another voltage seams to help here. Currently there are some chips that are close to -185C -> Fullpot, there may be something you can try here. Try tightening the socket screws more and before remounting the POT. Put the graphics card into the very last slot. Use the original IHS instead of the custom bracket, we have had better results with high wattage loads. For legacy stuff the bracket is still a choice, maybe the better one for single core loads. Peak load with all Ecores ~ 950W+, so you have to watch out if the paste cracks. Memory IMC uplift is also huge, the same MDIE memory now runs between 7400-7600 memstable under air and up to 8500+ for various benchmarks. For those who have an ADIE kit there is a 7600 profile in the bios that you can use as a starter profile. As starting point set the LN2 Jumper on Mainboard, go into BIOS, load the LN2 Profile and Cool down to -120C Basic LN2 Settings are: Ratio 55 Cache 40 Vcore: 1.60 - 1.70+ SA: 1.35+ CPU Input Voltage: 2.0 Core PLL Voltage 0.915 - 1.00500 Ring PLL Voltage: 1.00500 PLL Termination Voltage: 1.300 CPU Standby Voltage: 1.300 CPU Input Voltage Reset Voltage: 1.8 -- Tools - Worktool RPL 1121 https://www.dropbox.com/s/jf7ob7r5quvri1c/M15_OCPAK1121.zip?dl=0 - MemTweakIt https://www.dropbox.com/s/fee9xkrv54ptb5t/MemTweakIt_20221101.zip?dl=0 - TurboV Core 1.10.20 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ifsr8x0zncxcvyd/TurboV_Core_1.10.20.zip?dl=0 -- BIOS naming rules here are some naming rule that you can identify bios in which status Official bios, it will be 0x0x or xxxx, e.g. 0806, 2204 and can download from official website, but there will have a time delay between it build and release, sometimes you can download it from ASUS RD, but can’t find it from official website becasue bios is on internal testing and need time for approval Test bios, it will be only 00xx, e.g. 0040, 0051, modify for improve compatibility or system stablity Special or meida reivew bios, it will be 9xxx, only offer for specific using to solve issue or for media review before it official release all bioses will based on official bios and modify for improvement -- Bios Archive Test: 0075 - 0088 - 0095 - 0099 - 0031 (MC SP Visible) - 0040 - 0005 - 0078 - 0088 - 0098 Retail: 0605 - 0701 - 0702 - 0703 0802 - 0804 - 0806 - 0809 - 0810 - 0901 - 0902 BIOS Ver. 0018 update ucode to 0x112 update rc version to 0C.00.A2.40 update mrc version to 0.0.4.129 improve memory overclocking compatibility https://www.dropbox.com/s/0by5wtqzats1rmp/ROG-MAXIMUS-Z790-APEX-ASUS-0018.CAP?dl=0 BIOS Ver. 0021 BIOS For G.SKILL OC WORLD CUP 2023 *change to mode2 to use gear4 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iLQZ-aoTryYU9HUSDgV2ZmLn0kQWSpFW/view?usp=share_link BIOS Ver. 0031 update ucode to 0x113 update rc version to 0C.00.A2.40 update mrc version to 0.0.4.129 before you use this version BIOS, make sure update ME FW 16.1.25.2124 first in windows. Optimized SK Hynix 24Gbit IC overclocking compatibility. Change method to optimized memory timings. tWRPRE = tCWL + tWR + 8 / tWRPDEN = tCWL + tWR + 9 / tRTP not related with tWR, it defined and caculated by speed bin table with tCK. https://www.dropbox.com/s/y3i0iz3nieh2gkm/MEUpdateTool_16.1.25.2124_T.zip?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/bt9csk7ooe2ia4f/ROG-MAXIMUS-Z790-APEX-ASUS-0031-2023-03-10.CAP?dl=0 -- Legacy Tools For the WINXP Legacy Tools have a look at the old Z690 Thread Edited March 11, 2023 by noizemaker 11 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanker Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Ty for the info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safedisk Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) ROG MAXIMUS Z790 Series Beta Bios 0801 --** you can manually set MCE remove all limits enabled to remove 90C tjmax limit when high dram clocks: ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO BETA BIOS 0801 https://www.dropbox.com/s/wpevdb4ls7jchih/ROG-MAXIMUS-Z790-HERO-ASUS-0801.zip?dl=0 ROG MAXIMUS Z790 APEX BETA BIOS 0801 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ohvia4drtaywm54/ROG-MAXIMUS-Z790-APEX-ASUS-0801.zip?dl=0 ROG MAXIMUS Z790 EXTREME BETA BIOS 0801 https://www.dropbox.com/s/kmecoueatbysayr/ROG-MAXIMUS-Z790-EXTREME-ASUS-0801.zip?dl=0 A tuning guide for beginners (english) https://www.overclock.net/threads/asus-maximus-z790-extreme-and-intel-i9-13900k-a-tuning-guide-for-beginners.1801569/ Edited November 10, 2022 by safedisk 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinos22 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 these XP legacy tools don't seem to be working for me. I can change uncore but not core in Ratios for some reason, anyone else seeing the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safedisk Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 5:26 PM, dinos22 said: these XP legacy tools don't seem to be working for me. I can change uncore but not core in Ratios for some reason, anyone else seeing the same? Hey you need disable speedshift in bios 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed.fastest Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Just got it today, quick run, very easy to use 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seranidy Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safedisk Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 16 hours ago, speed.fastest said: Just got it today, quick run, very easy to use you need hci rerun haha this is bug ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed.fastest Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 5 hours ago, safedisk said: you need hci rerun haha this is bug ? Thanks, i will make normal OS just for HCI Memtest then Here is TM5 Absolut 7800 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matsglobetrotter Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I just tried the 0801 bios for the Z790 Hero seems it is messed up seriously for my memory so have to go back to the 0703 from the Asus site. On the 0703 I can easily run the basic XMP I and II at 6400 Mhz. Even go up to 6800 with the same profile not even adding voltages. I have run a tighter profile with a bit higher voltages fully stabile at 7200 Mhz and can boot up at 7400 Mhz. On the 0801 Bios i can not even boot a simple XMP profile XMP II nor the XMP asus tweaks even at 6400 with the same ram sticks. I am using the Kingston Fury Renegades 6400 Mhz 2x 16GB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matsglobetrotter Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) I am playing around with some GTX580 cards on the Z790 Hero. They cards are PCIE gen2. Even if I use the switch on the Hero to ensure it goes back to Gen3 the Bus interface in both Win8.1 and Win 10 shows up as PCIE x16 1.1 @ x16 1.1 now it should be reporting PCIE X16 2.0 @ X16 2.0 as per all instances i see back in time (other platforms) Is there a way to fix this? It is as if the MB is holding back the scores in Heaven, 3d Mark Vantage to mention a few. This even if I run 6Ghz CPU and 7GHz on the ram with tight timings Edited November 13, 2022 by Matsglobetrotter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptSpig Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/12/2022 at 4:25 PM, Matsglobetrotter said: I just tried the 0801 bios for the Z790 Hero seems it is messed up seriously for my memory so have to go back to the 0703 from the Asus site. On the 0703 I can easily run the basic XMP I and II at 6400 Mhz. Even go up to 6800 with the same profile not even adding voltages. I have run a tighter profile with a bit higher voltages fully stabile at 7200 Mhz and can boot up at 7400 Mhz. On the 0801 Bios i can not even boot a simple XMP profile XMP II nor the XMP asus tweaks even at 6400 with the same ram sticks. I am using the Kingston Fury Renegades 6400 Mhz 2x 16GB. Did you update Intel ME software and firmware to the latest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed.fastest Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Change to other CPU, DDR5-8267 Geekbench 3 passed! And 8000 TM5 Absolut all done on hot ambient 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seranidy Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Should be pretty close to max 8400 tune, need to make my OS more efficient and hopefully 16500 is a reality for 8400 on ambient Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed.fastest Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Breaking 16K and passing DDR5-8500 Geekbench 3! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micka Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 On 10/25/2022 at 7:35 PM, safedisk said: ROG MAXIMUS Z790 Series Beta Bios 0801 --** you can manually set MCE remove all limits enabled to remove 90C tjmax limit when high dram clocks: ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO BETA BIOS 0801 https://www.dropbox.com/s/wpevdb4ls7jchih/ROG-MAXIMUS-Z790-HERO-ASUS-0801.zip?dl=0 ROG MAXIMUS Z790 APEX BETA BIOS 0801 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ohvia4drtaywm54/ROG-MAXIMUS-Z790-APEX-ASUS-0801.zip?dl=0 ROG MAXIMUS Z790 EXTREME BETA BIOS 0801 https://www.dropbox.com/s/kmecoueatbysayr/ROG-MAXIMUS-Z790-EXTREME-ASUS-0801.zip?dl=0 A tuning guide for beginners (english) https://www.overclock.net/threads/asus-maximus-z790-extreme-and-intel-i9-13900k-a-tuning-guide-for-beginners.1801569/ 0806 looks good for A-die 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanker Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 9 GHz! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR-B Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 HELLO apex Z790 erreur code 55 ROG MAXIMUS Z790 APEX BIOS 0703 13600k ddr5 G.skill 7600 MHZ Windows 10 THANK YOU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed.fastest Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) DDR5-8400 38-49-49 TM5 Anta777 Extreme1 5 Minutes no error, MC SP 70! 0809 BIOS Edited December 28, 2022 by speed.fastest 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Carillo1 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 8800 GB3-Air with 5600 Hynix 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wytiwx Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 My 790 APEX can do A-DIE 8800 boot on air by gear2 mode, but failed to same 8800 by gear4 mode. Have tried different CPUs and BIOS but nothing better, any idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bscool Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 22 hours ago, wytiwx said: My 790 APEX can do A-DIE 8800 boot on air by gear2 mode, but failed to same 8800 by gear4 mode. Have tried different CPUs and BIOS but nothing better, any idea? Which bios? I think it only works on certain bioses from what I have seen people say and also needs lower voltages from what I remember. I think one of these newer ones that it worked on 0078 or 0088. Not sure. https://bianbao.dev/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seranidy Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 On 1/14/2023 at 4:36 AM, wytiwx said: My 790 APEX can do A-DIE 8800 boot on air by gear2 mode, but failed to same 8800 by gear4 mode. Have tried different CPUs and BIOS but nothing better, any idea? After playing around with G4 on the apex and hitting 9600 on ambient, (only tried bios 0806 and 0810) You need much lower SA, around 1.25ish for it to start working and you need to play around with the strap + BCLK, too high and it wont boot, and sometimes too low and it won't boot. (I was doing 10000 strap and 89 BCLK, and then adjusting BCLK inside of the OS) Mess around with your IVR and MC Voltages too, those might need to be a bit lower than what G2 needs for 8800. Have fun. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wytiwx Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 On 1/16/2023 at 8:17 AM, seranidy said: After playing around with G4 on the apex and hitting 9600 on ambient, (only tried bios 0806 and 0810) You need much lower SA, around 1.25ish for it to start working and you need to play around with the strap + BCLK, too high and it wont boot, and sometimes too low and it won't boot. (I was doing 10000 strap and 89 BCLK, and then adjusting BCLK inside of the OS) Mess around with your IVR and MC Voltages too, those might need to be a bit lower than what G2 needs for 8800. Have fun. THX. I booted G2 8800 with normal timing, must I use raw timing for G4 at the same mem Freq? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanker Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Elmor also tried i9-13900KS with LHe (Massman recorded video) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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