Domdtxdissar Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 (edited) 19 hours ago, Dry_Ice777 said: Because old platforms are cheap, popular and you don’t mind them. Try, experiment, solder something without any fear. Not everyone can afford to overclock and put at risk home platforms that cost as much as 1 or more months' salary. I am not asking you to replace all stages, please note. I suggested simply adding just one category, so that those who cannot afford expensive hardware could give battle to the top benchers) You could could also turn this argument around on its head Why would i go through the hassle of finding and buying some old junk hardware, tweak/use it for the lenght of the competion then throw it in the trash, instead of competing with the (modern) hardware i already have/own. Even think many ppl would learn many new things they can use for their daily modern systems, that they game on every day. In the last few competitions/cups, what kind of hardware rules generated the most submissons ? (genuine curious) Edited September 19 by Domdtxdissar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AG-TAS Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 On 9/18/2024 at 1:40 AM, TASOS said: Please if possible ... not an other monster Country Cup , with numerous stages and 5 results per stage. Lets keep it normal. It wouldn't be Country Cup otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AG-TAS Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 3 hours ago, Domdtxdissar said: You could could also turn this argument around on its head Why would i go through the hassle of finding and buying some old junk hardware, tweak/use it for the lenght of the competion then throw it in the trash, instead of competing with the (modern) hardware i already have/own. Even think many ppl would learn many new things they can use for their daily modern systems, that they game on every day. In the last few competitions/cups, what kind of hardware rules generated the most submissons ? (genuine curious) Every CC I can recall has had the need to hunt to find all the required gear for each stage. Adds to the intrigue. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exaberries Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 Most country cups we've had a mix of old and new, i'd expect this year to not be too different in that respect. Hopefully less subs needed overall though. Having stages with newer hardware is good for getting newer benchers to participate since that's usually what they have. And well older hardware is fun and isn't super expensive to go out and buy if no one on your team has it. To me ideally the stage should require a decent breadth of hardware and it shouldn't be just the super popular stuff because that just leads to people who already binned and ran that stuff to just re-run which I think wouldn't be that interesting. On the other hand it can't be too obscure, that way everyone can aquire the hardware and we don't end up have only a few countries able to sub. Comps also kinda serve to help increase the amount of subs on underbenched hardware so I do try to suggest stages along those lines. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ale belo Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 for me it is useful to do some stages at cpu limit (aio/water) in order to consider all the categories and look for the best efficiency 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webyska Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 Conroe-L - y-cruncher 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
life_in_the_shadow Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 (edited) May be pcmark 7/10 on mining nvidia GPU, just for fun. But seriously, maybe stage 3dmark 03 on igu pentium 1155 3dmark 03 on igu pentium 1155 or igpu amd ddr2/ am4 Bristol Ridge? For cpu GPU pi 3.3.2 100m on pentium D? Edited September 20 by life_in_the_shadow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarc Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 On 9/16/2024 at 9:32 AM, Dry_Ice777 said: Is it possible to add one more stage - old / ancient / dinosaurs stage? We would be happy to work with such platforms as 370 \ 462 \ 754 \ 939 \ 478. As I understand it, soon we will also ask 775 \ 1156 \ 1366 \ AM2+ \ AM3+ to be moved to a separate branch 😅 + 486 the last competition with it was 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted September 20 Crew Share Posted September 20 You are in the wrong chat, save the old stuff for Team Cup I like the idea for a Tweaking Stage, limited clocks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul7347 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 Limited clocks could be interesting but only a couple of stages please, let's keep it fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bl4ckdot Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 (edited) cpu stage ideas: - Intel coffee lake only, 4 differents CPU, geekbench 4 multicore score - AMD- 7zip - am4, cezanne only - 4/6/8 cores I would like to also suggest a Country Cup with fewer stages than last year, as it rewards better quality subs Edited September 22 by bl4ckdot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ground Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 1 hour ago, bl4ckdot said: cpu stage ideas: - Intel coffee lake only, 4 differents CPU, geekbench 4 multicore score - AMD- 7zip - am4, cezanne only - 4/6/8 cores I would like to also suggest a Country Cup with fewer stages than last year, as it rewards better quality subs have we had 1151 - 4 different generations? eg 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th gen? Cezanne only seems fine, though the quad cores are a bit of a pain being oem only, maybe make it APUs only? Gives cezanne the edge, but allows 4300G or earlier APUs to play since those quads are more available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie568 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 Bclk on black pirl 😏 nice idea? We need more addict stages S441 s1 & more Exotic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yee245 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 On 9/22/2024 at 4:55 PM, bl4ckdot said: - Intel coffee lake only, 4 differents CPU, geekbench 4 multicore score Doesn't that end up making it just kind of a potentially expensive stage of 9900K, 9900KF, 9900KS, and then like 8700K/8086K/9700K/KF? If anything, I'd adjust it to be more like 3 different core counts, no HT allowed (disabling HT allowed). Lumps the 9th gen i7s and i9s into the 8-core score, the 8th gen i7s and the 8th/9th gen i5s into the 6-core score, and then the 3rd score then still is the relatively less common 8350K/9350K/KF as the quad core score, while still leaving it within reach for the smaller teams where you could still use a locked i3 or one of the Pentium/Celerons for that third score. Maybe even specifically allow mobile and Xeons (but not ES) for the stage to increase options for people with hardware meeting the core counts that may not have the normal desktop ones, since you have 2/4/6/8-core in mobile coffee lake (both locked and unlocked) and 4/6/8-core for Xeons. I'm not necessarily advocating for this stage, but that adjustment would allow for a fairly wide range of hardware, where there should be plenty of options for each score, and maybe tries to accommodate smaller teams that might only be able to put 3 scores, rather than needing 4 to have the full team stage. Just my two cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seby Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 3DMark 2001SE Ryzen only all out - Misc I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spit051261 Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 Seeing Unigine Heaven with old cards would be nice 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAGG Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 (edited) I got a few modern ish ideas: X265 4K, 2-4-6-8 Cores DDR4 only 3D01, IGP (desktop HW only) all out, 4 Scores Geekbench4 singlecore, Celeron CPUs only, unique sockets, 4 scores Firestrike, Tahiti single GPU, 4 Scores Edited September 28 by TAGG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Tested Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 (edited) wprime 32m - Pentium 4 dogpile x265 - AMD DDR3 APU - divided by socket (AM1/FM1/FM2/FM2+) - 4 subs ycruncher pi1b - 1366 - divided by core count - 3 subs Mem freq divided by IC manufacturer - 2 DDR3 scores, 2 DDR4 scores - 4 subs We discussed others in the show but these were the most fleshed out Edited September 28 by Tech Tested 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul7347 Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 No one's gonna make some propositions with fairly recent hardware ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denvys5 Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 (edited) y-cruncher BBP hasn't seen a competition appearence,... yet 😋 Maybe, AVX512 stuff for y-cruncher BBP-100B stage? 8-core, any cpu, 3 subs? (11900K, 7820X, 12900K, R9-9700X sound viable) Probably, would be Intel-centered stage, since most of the viable cpus are Intel by default Edited September 29 by denvys5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1whiteshark1 Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 CPU Frequency - one sub for each DDR generation Maybe some kind of intel DGPU stage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmanus9442 Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 ycruncher 2.5b 4/6/8/10 core no avx allowed 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul7347 Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 14 hours ago, denvys5 said: y-cruncher BBP hasn't seen a competition appearence,... yet 😋 Maybe, AVX512 stuff for y-cruncher BBP-100B stage? 8-core, any cpu, 3 subs? (11900K, 7820X, 12900K, R9-9700X sound viable) Probably, would be Intel-centered stage, since most of the viable cpus are Intel by default Yeah I like the idea of y-cruncher BBP, and I don't think it would be intel-centered because AMD is crazy fast at it. Gotta find a way to force a bit of both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul7347 Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 Hello there, Are the start and end dates for the competition already set ? Asking for planning purposes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted October 4 Crew Share Posted October 4 Aiming for start 01st of November till 20th of December, configuring right now let the hatred flow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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