Country Cup 2024 Planning Thread

[Domdtxdissar]

19 hours ago, Dry_Ice777 said:

Because old platforms are cheap, popular and you don’t mind them. Try, experiment, solder something without any fear.
Not everyone can afford to overclock and put at risk home platforms that cost as much as 1 or more months' salary.
I am not asking you to replace all stages, please note. I suggested simply adding just one category, so that those who cannot afford expensive hardware could give battle to the top benchers)

You could could also turn this argument around on its head

Why would i go through the hassle of finding and buying some old junk hardware, tweak/use it for the lenght of the competion then throw it in the trash, instead of competing with the (modern) hardware i already have/own. Even think many ppl would learn many new things they can use for their daily modern systems, that they game on every day.

In the last few competitions/cups, what kind of hardware rules generated the most submissons ? (genuine curious)

Edited September 19 by Domdtxdissar

[AG-TAS]

On 9/18/2024 at 1:40 AM, TASOS said:

Please if possible ... not an other monster Country Cup , with numerous stages and 5 results per stage.

Lets keep it normal.

It wouldn't be Country Cup otherwise.

 

[AG-TAS]

3 hours ago, Domdtxdissar said:

You could could also turn this argument around on its head

Why would i go through the hassle of finding and buying some old junk hardware, tweak/use it for the lenght of the competion then throw it in the trash, instead of competing with the (modern) hardware i already have/own. Even think many ppl would learn many new things they can use for their daily modern systems, that they game on every day.

In the last few competitions/cups, what kind of hardware rules generated the most submissons ? (genuine curious)

Every CC I can recall has had the need to hunt to find all the required gear for each stage. Adds to the intrigue.

[exaberries]

Most country cups we've had a mix of old and new, i'd expect this year to not be too different in that respect. Hopefully less subs needed overall though. 

Having stages with newer hardware is good for getting newer benchers to participate since that's usually what they have. And well older hardware is fun and isn't super expensive to go out and buy if no one on your team has it. To me ideally the stage should require a decent breadth of hardware and it shouldn't be just the super popular stuff because that just leads to people who already binned and ran that stuff to just re-run which I think wouldn't be that interesting. On the other hand it can't be too obscure, that way everyone can aquire the hardware and we don't end up have only a few countries able to sub. 

Comps also kinda serve to help increase the amount of subs on underbenched hardware so I do try to suggest stages along those lines. 

[ale belo]

for me it is useful to do some stages at cpu limit (aio/water) in order to consider all the categories and look for the best efficiency

[Webyska]

Conroe-L - y-cruncher

[life_in_the_shadow]

May be pcmark 7/10 on mining nvidia GPU, just for fun.

But seriously, maybe stage 3dmark 03 on igu pentium 1155 3dmark 03 on igu pentium 1155 or  igpu amd ddr2/ am4 Bristol Ridge?

For cpu GPU pi 3.3.2 100m on pentium D?

Edited September 20 by life_in_the_shadow

[Remarc]

On 9/16/2024 at 9:32 AM, Dry_Ice777 said:

Is it possible to add one more stage - old / ancient / dinosaurs stage?

We would be happy to work with such platforms as 370 \ 462 \ 754 \ 939 \ 478. As I understand it, soon we will also ask 775 \ 1156 \ 1366 \ AM2+ \ AM3+ to be moved to a separate branch 😅

+ 486 the last competition with it was 2015

[Leeghoofd]

You are in the wrong chat, save the old stuff for Team Cup

I like the idea for a Tweaking Stage, limited clocks

[Paul7347]

Limited clocks could be interesting but only a couple of stages please, let's keep it fun

[bl4ckdot]

cpu stage ideas:

- Intel coffee lake only, 4 differents CPU, geekbench 4 multicore score

- AMD- 7zip - am4, cezanne only - 4/6/8 cores 

 

I would like to also suggest a Country Cup with fewer stages than last year, as it rewards better quality subs

Edited September 22 by bl4ckdot

[ground]

1 hour ago, bl4ckdot said:

cpu stage ideas:

- Intel coffee lake only, 4 differents CPU, geekbench 4 multicore score

- AMD- 7zip - am4, cezanne only - 4/6/8 cores 

 

I would like to also suggest a Country Cup with fewer stages than last year, as it rewards better quality subs

have we had 1151 - 4 different generations? eg 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th gen?

Cezanne only seems fine, though the quad cores are a bit of a pain being oem only, maybe make it APUs only? Gives cezanne the edge, but allows 4300G or earlier APUs to play since those quads are more available

[Zombie568]

Bclk on black pirl 😏 nice idea?

We need more addict stages

S441 s1 & more Exotic

[yee245]

On 9/22/2024 at 4:55 PM, bl4ckdot said:

- Intel coffee lake only, 4 differents CPU, geekbench 4 multicore score

Doesn't that end up making it just kind of a potentially expensive stage of 9900K, 9900KF, 9900KS, and then like 8700K/8086K/9700K/KF? If anything, I'd adjust it to be more like 3 different core counts, no HT allowed (disabling HT allowed). Lumps the 9th gen i7s and i9s into the 8-core score, the 8th gen i7s and the 8th/9th gen i5s into the 6-core score, and then the 3rd score then still is the relatively less common 8350K/9350K/KF as the quad core score, while still leaving it within reach for the smaller teams where you could still use a locked i3 or one of the Pentium/Celerons  for that third score. Maybe even specifically allow mobile and Xeons (but not ES) for the stage to increase options for people with hardware meeting the core counts that may not have the normal desktop ones, since you have 2/4/6/8-core in mobile coffee lake (both locked and unlocked) and 4/6/8-core for Xeons.

I'm not necessarily advocating for this stage, but that adjustment would allow for a fairly wide range of hardware, where there should be plenty of options for each score, and maybe tries to accommodate smaller teams that might only be able to put 3 scores, rather than needing 4 to have the full team stage. Just my two cents.

[Seby]

3DMark 2001SE Ryzen only all out - Misc I guess

[spit051261]

Seeing Unigine Heaven with old cards would be nice 🙂

[TAGG]

I got a few modern ish ideas:

X265 4K, 2-4-6-8 Cores DDR4 only

3D01, IGP (desktop HW only) all out, 4 Scores

Geekbench4 singlecore, Celeron CPUs only, unique sockets, 4 scores

Firestrike, Tahiti single GPU, 4 Scores

Edited September 28 by TAGG

[Tech Tested]

wprime 32m - Pentium 4 dogpile

x265 - AMD DDR3 APU - divided by socket (AM1/FM1/FM2/FM2+) - 4 subs
ycruncher pi1b - 1366 - divided by core count - 3 subs

Mem freq divided by IC manufacturer - 2 DDR3 scores, 2 DDR4 scores - 4 subs

We discussed others in the show but these were the most fleshed out

Edited September 28 by Tech Tested

[Paul7347]

No one's gonna make some propositions with fairly recent hardware ?

[denvys5]

y-cruncher BBP hasn't seen a competition appearence,... yet 😋

Maybe, AVX512 stuff for y-cruncher BBP-100B stage? 8-core, any cpu, 3 subs? (11900K, 7820X, 12900K, R9-9700X sound viable)

Probably, would be Intel-centered stage, since most of the viable cpus are Intel by default

Edited September 29 by denvys5

[1whiteshark1]

CPU Frequency - one sub  for each DDR generation

Maybe some kind of intel DGPU stage?

[mcmanus9442]

ycruncher 2.5b 4/6/8/10 core no avx allowed 😁

[Paul7347]

14 hours ago, denvys5 said:

y-cruncher BBP hasn't seen a competition appearence,... yet 😋

Maybe, AVX512 stuff for y-cruncher BBP-100B stage? 8-core, any cpu, 3 subs? (11900K, 7820X, 12900K, R9-9700X sound viable)

Probably, would be Intel-centered stage, since most of the viable cpus are Intel by default

Yeah I like the idea of y-cruncher BBP, and I don't think it would be intel-centered because AMD is crazy fast at it. Gotta find a way to force a bit of both

[Paul7347]

Hello there,

Are the start and end dates for the competition already set ? Asking for planning purposes

[Leeghoofd]

Aiming for start 01st of November till 20th of December, configuring right now

 

let the hatred flow