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question by example...for this thread.

 

e8600 wprime 2core 1st place, 60pts?

i5-670 wprime 2core 1st place, 60pts?

 

those are two different classes imo.

 

I don't think this change is about the core/thread discussion, so I assume we still count cores, and nothing else => both are considered to be dual cores, and therefore 2x.

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Update to TPP rankings:

 

0 - The concept of the Team League remains the same.

 

1 - We fixed the issue where uploading a new score could actually decrease your points, as described here, by limiting the amount of scores that receive global TPP to 1 (best of team). This is a similar implementation like the hardware TPP.

 

2 - We've separated the ranking weight calculation for global TPP and hardware TPP. This allows us to finetune each TPP class specifically and, as such, provide more correct scoring.

 

3 - We removed the requirement of having at least 10 competing teams before any TPP ranking generates points. Now every hardware TPP ranking will generate at least 5 points for #1; every global TPP ranking will generate 50p.

 

4 - The maximum points for global TPP is ~ 500p with 800 competing teams. For hardware TPP, the maximum is ~ 150p with 300 competing teams.

 

5 - The algoritm remains the same: GTTP + HTTP + UP/10. Or: sum of "global teampowerpoints" + "hardware teampowerpoints" + "user points divided by 10".

 

In practical terms, this update should shift the Teams League more towards the hardware TPP rankings. Note, though, that scoring in the global TPP rankings is important with its minimum 50p for #1.

 

I'll post a couple of point distribution screenshots to show the effect.

 

Oh, right. Yes, we're really excited and happy with this finetuning.

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BIG changes so soon after the shakeup :(

 

I suppose I like that there's some more ephasis on global benching.... but....... :(

 

 

Ahhhh.... let's see how it looks after a few months.

 

 

Can't you just remove ALL the points and see how things work out then? :)

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Updated this:

 

Now every hardware TPP ranking will generate at least 5 points for #1

 

Right before we installed this release on production, we had a look at the team rankings and made this small update. For all teams with a rank higher than 25, the balance between GTTP (global teampowperpoints) and HTTP (hardware teampowerpoints) is 1/6 or smaller, meaning both have a great influence on your result. For ranks lower than 25, things are a bit more unbalanced, meaning you need more hardware teampowerpoints (ie: strong in hardware rankings).

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A couple of things to check out as well:

 

1. Competition Points Overview

 

Go to your user profile, then points tab. You'll see a competition points tab. Click it to get an overview of all your acquired competition points.

 

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2. New Hardware/Benchmark Score Overview

 

From now on, you will see how you and your team is ranking in a benchmark or hardware ranking just with one click. Go visit one of the benchmark or hardware overview pages (search in top search bar) and you'll see a nice overview of the benchmark records in that class (including your and your team's best score)

 

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3. Benchmark Ranking Target Scores

 

For every ranking you visit, the engine will give you two target scores: your best result and your team's best result. In other words, everytime you visit a ranking, you will see how you can improve your result in a second.

 

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Have fun!

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FYI, the difference between "shitty overall wr" and a "single gpu wr" is over 100p: 59.8p (eg: 3x CPU wprime) versus 168p (eg: 1x GPU 3DM06).

 

This is one of the many problems that proves that I was right and 60 Global Point for every WR was a bad ideea: http://hwbot.org/forum/showthread.php?t=34300&page=2

 

95k 3DMark01 is a spectacular WR that deserves 60 Global Points?

Note that it has more points than no. 7 in single card ranking which is infinitely more difficult to achieve: http://hwbot.org/submission/2213728_splave_3dmark2001_se_geforce_gtx_580_137407_marks

 

Is it unfair or I'm crazy? :)

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effort * difficulty =!= instant points

 

Part of the game is identifying where the points are then challenging that record. Not just 'I put 200hrs and $$$ into single card and get less points than someone who ran 4 cards'. If you want to run single card, it's up to you. If you've got access to 2x6990, then it's up to you as well.

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