SoF Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 ...just change into hwbot's exclusive pro league Seems much more attractive with the improvements for multi-gpu short time ago now. And as I just tapped into the "ES-trap" (got some 3960X ES for benching this session) it is easier to handle for the early adopters. 3960K retail new seem to be impossible to get... I would have had my own 3930K retail by now but due to the C1 / C2 stepping crap maybe have to wait until start of jan Can't wait for some more 2x and specially 3x 580 GTX fun in the winter at subzero air temps in the wintergarden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Turrican Posted December 12, 2011 Crew Share Posted December 12, 2011 lol hipro hasn't uploaded anything since one year, so i'm more impressed he's still hanging in there, chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaPaKaH Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 sure, being 40th out of 54 is more prestigious than being 41st out of thousands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoF Posted December 12, 2011 Author Share Posted December 12, 2011 sure, being 40th out of 54 is more prestigious than being 41st out of thousands Feels more prestigious to be able to use ES with points as crappy as they might be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der8auer Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 IMO we srsly don't need this league. It's called "Pro OC" but is not competitive at all... No offense but I respect the ppl more in the Overclockers League. In my eyes "Pro OC" and "Overclockers" should be merged together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 ** let the ES debate commence ** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Is Massman an ES ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der8auer Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Abhorrently evil braindead kind-hearted money-driven child-hating short-sighted hardware-sharing cheating macho nacho supreme boy with sense of humor (ES) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K404 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I think the Pro League is a great idea. IMO the guys who pay for everything (or at least most) themselves should NOT have to be ranked directly against company employees, guys with access to HUNDREDS of CPUs to bin for free, or Massman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondacity Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I think the Pro League is a great idea. IMO the guys who pay for everything (or at least most) themselves should NOT have to be ranked directly against company employees, guys with access to HUNDREDS of CPUs to bin for free, or Massman +1 I don't want to compete with cheater like sof and massman lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K404 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Oh... in case my comment is mis-interpreted, I don't mean cheating in any way, but it's like going up against Chuck Norris, Columbo, Horatio Caine and Neo, all rolled into one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverik-sg1 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I think it's great to separate the pro's away from everyone else - after all how many people can afford to keep buying a certain CPU or GPU until they have found a golden nugget sample? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew stummerwinter Posted December 14, 2011 Crew Share Posted December 14, 2011 If Chuck Norris step into LN2, LN2 don't get Chuck Norris, he becomes Massman... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoF Posted December 15, 2011 Author Share Posted December 15, 2011 (edited) lolhipro hasn't uploaded anything since one year, so i'm more impressed he's still hanging in there, chris. If Chuck Norris step into LN2, LN2 don't get Chuck Norris, he becomes Massman... I think it is very good to have thoose two leagues. I mean I really spent a lot of my own money for binning sb only. but with some good support you are having more possibilities - stacking packages is one of thoose... Edited December 15, 2011 by SoF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveRo Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Pro league was/is a great idea, it needs to continue for those that don't have to pay for h/w. ES is a different issue but probably needs to stay in pro league when it is new or current state of the art. Christian mentioned recently - is this true for all ES? - ES in the non-pro leagues is ok provided it is not current/latest product - I think this is a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.M.O.G. Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Pro league was/is a great idea, it needs to continue for those that don't have to pay for h/w. ES is a different issue but probably needs to stay in pro league when it is new or current state of the art. Christian mentioned recently - is this true for all ES? - ES in the non-pro leagues is ok provided it is not current/latest product - I think this is a good idea. I agree about pro league. Not sure about ES. ES isn't supposed to be sold according to manufacturers. Which makes its availability to non-pro participants rather limited to those willing to sell or buy things which aren't technically supposed to be sold (not sure of legalities). Through my site, I have friends with ES that I could procure easily, but I do not because most people would have a hard time getting their hands on them due to limited availability, and for me it would be a serious ethical issue unless I go to the pro league. I don't know why it would be a good idea to allow ES chips in non-pro at all. It could be a considerable advantage to insiders, or those who are friends with insiders - outside of them, only a scarce few people have occasional opportunities to purchase ES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveRo Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 (edited) ^^ so for example - even if it is an old 8800GTX ES - it should not be allowed in non-pro? Edited December 15, 2011 by SteveRo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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K404 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 The problem with your example is.... prove it's an ES ES debate only really applies to CPUs because it's the only component with an ES stamp that shows up in detection software.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoF Posted December 17, 2011 Author Share Posted December 17, 2011 Is Massman an ES ? Is Christian Ney the "Massman on 22nm ES" ? Improved content per post and not that annoying money-driven [and whatever negative aspects you find in his title...] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 ...just change into hwbot's exclusive pro league Seems much more attractive with the improvements for multi-gpu short time ago now. And as I just tapped into the "ES-trap" (got some 3960X ES for benching this session) it is easier to handle for the early adopters. 3960K retail new seem to be impossible to get... I would have had my own 3930K retail by now but due to the C1 / C2 stepping crap maybe have to wait until start of jan Can't wait for some more 2x and specially 3x 580 GTX fun in the winter at subzero air temps in the wintergarden wow, i'm the very best!! , okay i'm not #1 but i'm the first on that pic anyway , eat that suckers , it feels macho nacho supreme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoF Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 You are still holding the "WR for benching E8600 first on stage with LN2 in spain with joe_cool and no_name" so I think it's well deserved I'm afraid nobody of the active people here can beat that We need new hwbot-rev soon -.- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaPaKaH Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 non-Sergio spanish guys always get forgotten ... I think FoX360 belongs to that rare group of people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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