eketehe Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 No. Enabling more cores is allowed; disabling them is not. the system not allowed me to submit 555be unlock more 1 core for total 3core Quote
Massman Posted January 7, 2012 Author Posted January 7, 2012 No. Enabling more cores is allowed; disabling them is not. Oh, I just realized it's configured differently. My bad! Stages are based on stock CPU core_count and not on effective cores. Ie: in the 2xCPU category, you can technically use a quad socket system with 4 dual cores . I'll update the frontpage too so it's more clear Quote
eketehe Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) Oh, I just realized it's configured differently. My bad!Stages are based on stock CPU core_count and not on effective cores. Ie: in the 2xCPU category, you can technically use a quad socket system with 4 dual cores . I'll update the frontpage too so it's more clear so that, 1 processor will only allowed for 1 stage i.e. sempron 140 will allowed for 1x,555be for 2x,960t for 4x no matter how much the active cores,except disable the stock. well then, ok.thx massman Edited January 7, 2012 by eketehe Quote
Massman Posted January 7, 2012 Author Posted January 7, 2012 I've updated the names of the stages so it's more clear. - single core = all CPUs with 1 core (multiple cpus allowed) - dual core = all CPUs with 2 cores (multiple cpus allowed) - ... Quote
knopflerbruce Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 So you can run a quad socket rig with 4 dual cores for the 2x stage? Lol. Quote
Massman Posted January 7, 2012 Author Posted January 7, 2012 Yes. I don't think you'll be first, though. Quote
knopflerbruce Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 Yes. I don't think you'll be first, though. It's still silly. But I doubt it's relevant except for maybe 1x, where I bet the gain by getting another core is alot bigger than in the other cases. It also limits the number of tri core chips alot, unfortunately - I guess you have to either use Phenom 8000-series, Athlon II 400-series or Phenom II 700-series. But here we won't have multi socket issues:D Quote
Massman Posted January 7, 2012 Author Posted January 7, 2012 Sorry for making challenges sometimes a little bit different. Quote
knopflerbruce Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 It's not a disaster, but it should be pointed out in the competition main page that you can use multiple sockets. It's also a bit weird that you can use multi-socket boards, but unlocking cores isn't allowed. This is just feedback, that's why we run these competitions - then we see flaws we didn't think of, and remember till we have more serious competitions. But these flaws must be mentioned, or we wouldn't be aware that they exist:D Quote
Massman Posted January 8, 2012 Author Posted January 8, 2012 No. X2 555 only for dual core category. Quote
Mikecdm Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 No. X2 555 only for dual core category. you might as well start removing them then http://hwbot.org/submission/2238778 Quote
Massman Posted January 8, 2012 Author Posted January 8, 2012 I'll look at the exact configuration tomorrow morning. When configured, the HCE should not require me manually checking submission if the are legit. Quote
Luebke Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) i think it´s no good idea to allow deleting results. if you try get the first place it´s your own risk this time i can´t compete, bekause i have just a eight-core system at moment but i hope next time it will not be allowed to delete results when you try get first place and fail and than just try get 11th with a lower result... the more risk, the more fun oh and please a benchmark, thats not used for boints. maybe aqunox or something like that i can´t see allways the same scenes anymore Edited January 8, 2012 by Luebke Quote
saint19 Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Why not unlock cores? That's part of overclock and you are getting more of you original CPU.... Quote
ShrimpBrime Posted January 12, 2012 Posted January 12, 2012 No. X2 555 only for dual core category. No. Enabling more cores is allowed; disabling them is not. Was reading all this and don't fully understand. Quote
I.nfraR.ed Posted January 12, 2012 Posted January 12, 2012 I kinda understand the reason behind unlocking cores being disallowed. Imho, it's not necessary. Unlocking is only possible with AMD cpus. Valid cases are: X1 -> X2 X2 -> X3/X4 X3 -> X4 X4 -> X6, however Zosma based X4 are very rare So, only one practical case is X2-> X3. X1 and X3 are AMD territory, others are dominated by Intel. So, let's say I'm an ordinary bencher that have not much money to buy a CPU on demand, but have an unlockable X2 555 in my daily rig. What's the point in limiting me to the X2 category only and not letting me play X3 and X4 as well? I think the main reason was pushing people to use an actual X3 processor, not an unlocked one. But that's the only valid case where it actually makes sense in some extend. I don't see a problem using unlocked sempron in X2 category or unlocked Phenom X2/Athlon X3 for the X4 category. Maybe add a rule so X3 category is only for "native" X3? Quote
Massman Posted January 12, 2012 Author Posted January 12, 2012 Okay, finally figured it our. I was right from the beginning except for the unlocking part. So, you can use any amount of sockets, but can't unlock your CPU. The reason is rather technical. Simply said: unlocking only works for CPU-based benchmarks. Quote
Massman Posted January 12, 2012 Author Posted January 12, 2012 I thought you said you couldn't submit?? the system not allowed me to submit 555be unlock more 1 core for total 3core Quote
eketehe Posted January 12, 2012 Posted January 12, 2012 yes but i was submit for 2x . just confused about the rule (unlock.. unlock... unlock, just figure out what is that ) ok then. the 3dmark06 is so much cpu bound, i know by now Quote
I.nfraR.ed Posted January 12, 2012 Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) Okay, finally figured it our. I was right from the beginning except for the unlocking part. So, you can use any amount of sockets, but can't unlock your CPU. The reason is rather technical. Simply said: unlocking only works for CPU-based benchmarks. So, techically engine would allow you to submit a result with unlocked processor into the X2 category, because it only understands it as a dual-core processor. It counts the original model cores, not the actual. Since that's a 3D benchmark the usual hwbot rankings don't care about processor used, gotcha! This makes it dificult (impossible?) to set the rules for the competition, so the engine would accept X2 555 @ X4 into the X4 category. So, what if I unlock the CPU and submit it as X4 955 into the X4 stage? Just curios about this. It actually doesn't give me any advantage to original X4 955. Edited January 12, 2012 by I.nfraR.ed Quote
Massman Posted January 12, 2012 Author Posted January 12, 2012 yes but i was submit for 2x . just confused about the rule (unlock.. unlock... unlock, just figure out what is that ) ok then. the 3dmark06 is so much cpu bound, i know by now Wait. What did you try? Submit unlocked to 3x into the 2x stage? Quote
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