Massman

The bold part is where I apoligise (and therefore admit) a mistake on my end regarding the stage details. The mistake was on my end for not repeating the limitation on the stage page. Yup, I can make mistakes. The competition text did mention the necessity for having a MSI graphics card as quoted in the opening post. The competition page did not say "all cards can be used", there were no conflicting rules. At best there could have been confusion, in which case I could've answered the question.

MSI VGA only, as the main competition page stated. Your result is not valid for the competition. Apoligies for the confusion on the stage section. You have been around here for a long time now, of course know MSI always requires MSI GPUs. Why not just ask for clarification instead?

No MSI Graphics card, rules said: "... Anyone using a MSI motherboards and graphics cards can compete ..."

Correct. The Pro OC Cup benchmark submissions are technically of the same type like the submissions you make in the Team Cup, Country Cup or any other HWBOT competition. They count towards the Team in the same way all other submissions do. The only difference between the previous Pro OC League and the current Pro OC Cup is that Pro OC members are no longer ranked individually in a ranking based on their benchmark result portfolio, but solely based on the Cup. A Pro OC Cup participant can contribute to the main team in the same way they could before. Nothing changed in that regard.

The range shouldn't really start at 0; the UHP also start at 0.1pts. 8 HTPP would be the equivalent of the 0.1 UHP. Using the word "beating" to indicate 82th out of 165 teams is maybe not the right terminology because a lot of these scores are done with not-so competitive hardware. I should look deeper into the matter, but getting 82th place shouldn't be that difficult, right? Are there any major complaints regarding the HTPP? Or more of a general note?

No teams are dissolved; after the first Cup finishes, the second will kick off. During the first month of the second Cup, all the existing teams can register for the second cup again. The link between members and pro oc team will be maintained as long as the member stays with the team. If a member decides to join another team, start their own team or move back to the OC League, the link will be broken. We keep record of what member participated in what team for what Cup, so a member will forever be linked to the team. The Pro OC Ranking, based on the three last Cups, will be based on the stage points obtained in the different Pro OC Cups. There will be a ranking by teams and one by individual members.

Winner announcements always take a bit of time. I am at MSI today, we will go over the competition details.

Score is higher or lower? - If higher => "awesome benchmark, love it" - If lower => "hate this benchmark, ditch it" ... is what community members will write.

Updated the CPU-Z stage by removing the link to the background and requirement for screenshot as the rule states: Sorry for the confusion.

Since CatZilla is (still) not final build, it's not included in the live stage. The two others are still the same, haven't changed.

Perfect mounting ... always

I mean ... "Let's have a poll about this"

Done. Not planned, but actually a good suggestion. I'll add it to the backlog to discuss with Dennis to see how much effort this will be!

Any more information on this fluctuation? Does not seem that good ...

Winner for week 4: Euro_Bucks. Gigabyte has received the contact information and will be in touch soon. Congratulations all!

OCP = shutdown OVP = voltage to ~0.1v

It actually boils down to "can we enforce the rules we make?", rather than a philosophical debate. We all want the image quality maintained, but if you can't check if a certain IQ "optimisation" was used ... not possible to enforce. Why don't Nvidia and AMD, two members of your BDP program, provide you with all the information to ensure image quality?

Cross-posted this in the staff forums as well. A result moderator will update this thread soon .

Added to buglist anyway.

Moving to public area, Rev5 section. Also adding a POLL. Fyi, the poll outcome will be used in case we find no major difficulties regarding the implementation of any of the suggested methods. This is an update with very low priority as it's not a bug and not a really useful feature. We're not going to spend hours and hours of development time on. If the implementation of the prefered method is a two-second job, we will follow the outcome of the poll.

Have fun guys! Show lots of pictures!

Updated the opening post! Hey, Sure, we can meet up some time! I'll check the PM

- Start: March 1 - Registration closed: April 1 - Elimination #1: May 15 - End of competition: May 31 All five stages are open from March 1 until May 31.

Options were considered and arguments were given why some options made things needlessly complicated or would not have the positive effect some people think it would have. Vivi was still one of the youngest overclockers attending the latest MOA grand final, apart from JJJC, meaning the influx of new extreme guys is very, very, VERY low. I'm not sure how some of you guys think overclocking will "move forward", but the severe lack of new blood at the top rankings is a very, very big problem. And we're not talking about guys enlisted in companies - we're talking people like Splave, Rbuass or Xtreme Addict who try to climb their way up to the top with own funding. These are community members. We've seen that the Pro OC League simply doesn't work. We've seen that the OC League doesn't work. So how on earth can you guys argue that keeping the Pro OC League is definitely the way forward?! That logic does not compute here. Most of you haven't spoken a hundred words about the Pro League since it kicked off, but now all of the sudden is the reason you bench and the only motivation to bench? C'mon, don't be rediculous. As for the $$, what can I say. There's a simple economic reality that requires every single project, whether it's community-driven (look at the staff here!) or pure business (look at Futuremark), to have enough income to run and (god forbid) grow. Having a dedicated developer doesn't come for free, unless you all agree we should go back to last year where sometimes there were no bug-fixes in months due to a severe shortage in available development time. If I want to get more audience to spectate, obviously that is related to an increased economic activity in the overclocking eco-system. The eco-system is far bigger than just HWBOT or me, it's all the teams that are trying to get a review or test sample. It's the people that are organising events such as EOC or AOMC and trying to get funding. It's the people that reach out to vendors for sponsorship and help setting up an overclocking event. Of course, I want HWBOT to benefit from that increased economic activity - I would be stupid and irresponsible if I didn't - but that does not make this project any less community-driven. Any statement of such nature I find highly offensive, in fact. I know what I do and why I do it and money has, quite frankly, very little to do with it. // yes, I'm typing this angry and disgusted // It's quite simple. If this was a $$-driven website, you would not see anything like the Hardware Masters (99% old hardware), not a single Country Cup (no sponsors required), oldies such as 3DMark01 and Aquamark removed, not a single HWBOT OC Challenge and so on. The only thing that would matter is the latest 3D benchmark and nothing but paid overclocking results. Do you love your 3DMark01? We still rank, reward and write about it! Would a corporate $$-driven machine do that? No, the rules for the OC League don't change. Latest generation ES is not allowed, because the community doesn't want those used in the rankings.