Massman

Okay, I think I get what you mean. Essentially a ranking based on competition points? //edit: but that's sort of what the Team Cup is for, no?

Adding up the scores doesn't really work ... 450pts is quite probably the correct amount of points.

And I thought current naming schemes were messed up ...

Kenny getting all emotional and bunny ...

screenshot is always mandatory.

You now have 449 points - seems correct?

Every time a Cup ends, there's a ranking. The next Cup starts from 0 again. There is no more Pro OC League/Ranking.

Regarding the historical timeline remarks - I absolutely agree. We will need some time to figure out the best way to visually represent this history though. But, yeah, the main idea for the Pro OC Cup (as well as the Country Cup and Team Cup) is to set up pages with historical overviews. Ideally we wanted to kick this off on January 1, but that will not be feasible as the Pro OC Cup requires us to also develop a couple of additional features. So, February 1 2013 is now the target. I understand your concern regarding HWBOT deciding what hardware to bench and which benchmarks to use. It's one of the drawbacks of a competition concept as planned. The advantage of making a tighter selection is that it allows for more interesting hardware/benchmark combinations (like K404 said). One competition would be 3 months and a new one starts when the last one finishes - so about 4 a year, yes. I agree with pretty much everything you wrote. The continuity of the XOC and Enthusiast leagues do have certain major advantages. For one, they don't require anyone to be active all the time in order to be ranked somehow. You can easily bench just once a month and maintain a top-50 position. This is quite good for the overclockers that don't really have that much time to bench/overclock, but still like to do it once in a while. Secondly, it's very easy to get started: all you need to do is run benchmarks with your system and you will usually generate a couple of points and see your profile go up in the rankings. That's one reason why we want to try this for the Pro OC only at first. A second reason is that the biggest complaint about HWBOT is about the ever-changing HWBoint algoritm and league rules. So, we will test the concept with Pro OC first and then if all works well slowly try to implement it for the regular rankings. We will still have the Team Cup, Country Cup and Challenges which will be designed for the non-Pro overclockers. Meaning: none of the expensive hardware, but more targeted at older systems and older cards.

Okay, to be quite blunt and honest: if you want to see new CPUs, mainboards, chipsets, VGAs and extreme overclocking - save up your money and go to Computex instead. As someone told me the other day: "CeBIT will be pretty boring, Computex will be gooood".

I think Computex will be more interesting in that case ... or not. Maybe. Last year it was mainly fun because of all the people that went, not really because of the hardware that was shown. This year it's just going to be more of the same. MB vendors won't show all the details of the Haswell platform anyway ... //edit: I'll pull the CeBIT 2013 comments out of this thread and into a new one.

Yeah, Sin doesn't work for Gigabyte. He just uses it way too often, haha. Hey Beier, how's your personal testing going?

I've picked up some rumours that it's not going to be so interesting this year components-wise.

Yeah, the phrasing was a little off. The Cup ends on the 30th, but the stage ends on the 26th. Dennis updated the phrasing, should be more clear now

Try recalculating the points again, please

Simply put: best three members of your forum form a Pro OC Cup team, gather the resources, compete in time-limited multi-platform benchmark competition. Tell sponsors you're competing and increase resources

Short intro As announced in the main R5 thread, we are planning to update the Pro OC League as it exists today and switch to an F1OC-style of competition featuring a 3 month competition. In short: If users indicate that they are Pro OC, they are allowed to create a Pro Cup team and join the Pro OC Cup. Each competition team will have their own profile page listing the Pro OC achievements and participants. The Cup will consists of 5/6 stages with predefined benchmark and hardware and will mainly focus on the newest generation of hardware. For example: Ivy Bridge, GTX680, Trinity, Piledriver and 4xCF 7970. Alongside of the Pro OC Cup, we'll run the Team cup which will have a similar layout as the pro oc, but with older hardware instead of the latest greatest. Note that the Overclockers League, Enthusiast League and Hardware Masters will not be affected by this change. The plans for this competition was discussed before with complete outsiders of the hardcore OC circle as well as within the staff section. I want to share some of this information to give a broader idea of the plan. The "why" and "how", basically. I'm apoligising for the immense amount of text below - just copied parts of the conversations we had already. Longer explanation First of all, since overclocking is a technical activity, whoever has the best resources will have the best shot at the top ranking. If Andre would care enough, he'd be #1 for always. Old-style or new-style (actually: any-style) ... that doesn't change. Ideally, the amount of support would go up in absolute terms, so you'd be more capable of competing. But ask yourself the question: how capable of 'competing' are you right now? Will it be more capable with R5 or less? No, it only affects the Pro OC ranking, not the points itself. So' date=' users are still allowed to indicate whether they are pro oc or xoc. If a user selects 'pro oc', it gives him the right to start a competition team and competite in the Pro OC Cup. If he doesn't want to compete, he will just not be in a ranking, but of course his submissions will still show up in the database. Just not part of a league. For someone who is now in Pro OC, but wants to go back to the XOC, that's also possible.[/quote'] Actually the end goal would to improve the situation, not worsen it. Getting more people into Pro OC would be the result of an increase of sponsors getting into overclocking. For example: local corporations backing up local guys to compete in the Pro OC. The idea is to create an environment that benefits more people

Heads up: the benchmark API is in the finalisation stage (fixing couple of bugs and making it more user-friendly). Should be available very soon

I saw some pictures on PCLab.pl and HWBox.gr. And on the inevitable Facebook of course. If they wanted direct coverage on your (or other sites), they would've made sure that would have been the case as they have all the knowledge and resources for that. The fact that you weren't contacted directly means you either don't represent the target audience (local marketing) or are not "big" enough (ie: small userbase). As far as I understand the contest, it was a local event with "celebrity" invites. Local event, ergo local media. Makes perfect sense.

Cool!

PSC was never improved - not sure if it'll ever be good on the UP7. I posted this screenshot somewhere else already too, but here it is anyway: DDR3-2800 divider with Corsair 2800 memory working on UP7. Now - I must say that when testing F5f for the first time I still had the 15-03-15-15-51 boot cycle too. I got it working by just adjusting: - ddr multiplier - pll override enable - change vddr if needed After the first successful boot I could change all settings.

Yup, that's what we're all about :woot: (fyi - we received 0,0 official information about this event)

Wow, you found one!

You can always add support tickets if hardware is not yet in the database .

Bwanasoft and Saucy were previous hardware database managers.

Added the bugs to our backlog. Some questions: - Arrandale Mobile are 989? I'll forward that to the database manager - The UCBench SSE2 'boost' is known - it's quite reproducable, a bit like CL in 3DM01. - You can already search for benchmarks by socket: http://hwbot.org/search/submissions => socket is available under processor and videocard