Massman

Does anyone have a card that will red screen with ALL ln2 bioses after ~ 5s in windows idle?

Boo?

Tried 1.25x bclk ratio?

Yeah. The NCP5395 has VID settings, so if you have a chip with I2C that controls the VID it's quite easy . Fixed!

Forgot to buy the screenshots.

Hey guys, I've recently been to the MSI office to test the new GTX660 graphics card. Originally I wanted to do the same style of review as I did with the 7870 Hawk so include all the mods, bioses and ln2 results, but it turned out to be a regular test. Mainly because the vGPU IC that is used (NCP5395) is not that easy to mod (click) and because there's no extreme OC bios available. As some of you might know, Nvidia has full control over the xtreme oc bioses. Vendors have to request an extreme oc bios from Nvidia and especially with low-end and mainstream cards that's not always easy. Once an extreme oc bios is available, I'll update this thread with the XOC results for sure! Pictures System Details - Intel Core i7 3960X C2 (ES) - MSI Big Bang-XPower II (bios V1.4) - Kingston HyperX Genesis KHX2400C11D3/2GX (4x 2GB) - MSI Geforce GTX 660 Twin Frozr - Enermax Revolution 87+ - Windows 7 64-bit (Chinese!) - Forceware 306.23 Results: Overview Results: 1x GPU Stock Results: 2x GPU Stock Results: 1x GPU OC (+100/+400) Results: 2x GPU OC (+50/+300) Conclusive lines Overall, I'm not all too displeased with this card. It's an okay mainstream card with mainstream performance. Being primarily an overclocker, I must say I'm a little disappointed by the lack of proper voltage control. Afterburner did not work correctly during my testing, but even if it would work it would still only provide the voltage range Nvidia allows for the GTX660. The Vgpu controller, NCP5395, has no I2C support. That means no software can be used to increase the voltage beyond stock. You will need to do the hardmod, which also is not as easy as it should(?) be. The driver used also had some stability issues in the 3DMark Vantage benchmark. The benchmark would crash when not being the first application opened after a reboot. When overclocked, SLI would always fail. This is a driver issue and should be resolved in next releases. As said, overall I'm definitely not disappointed, but also not extatic about this graphics card. It's mainstream, so delivers mainstream performance with mainstream overclocking capability. I might retest this card once new drivers are out and if I had the courage to start modding the NCP5395 . 'Till the next time! Addendum: About the award: MMB+ stands for Meaningless Marketer Bonus Plus (meaningless refering to the award, not the marketer!). The award has no value outside this forum and is not related to the product quality in any way. It's merely to please the person who gives me a kit to test and help him/her to show an award to their boss. This way, me not giving a damn about awards will never harm anyone in terms of yearly bonus. If you want to know how the product really is, read the thread and read other reviews. So, seriously, this award is pretty meaningless.

88 issue has been found as well as a solution. More info later. Splave, did you have voltage issues on V1.4 final bios? Or only on V1.4b6. Oh, also:

Why pay for a solution that is obviously just user error

Can you please forward me ALL email communication with ECS related to prize shipments? Cindy has left the company, maybe the new people have no idea about the shipments.

In that case, everyone would be a loser.

Sent request - wait for an email later today for confirmation 3960X C2 ES The should be pre-tested, yes. Just told them I can do it too if they don't have time for it. 2 CPUs, yes. MSI will contact you for the BIOS. You should get an email today. No extra mods. Do you need more mods? If yes, which? Rivatuner/D3DOverrider already confirmed yes. Asked for Pifast as well.

Sorry about the delay. I've been running all over the place (taipei) lately and only yesterday got internet installed in my home/office.

Yeah. That's right. Humour has never been allowed at hwbot ...

Request denied. Request denied. Request denied. Request denied. Request denied. Request forgotten (PM me again )

Fyi, the original bunny replacement was set because someone was offended by a word. I'm not offended by anything in this thread, so no need to replace more Maybe I'll change "smartass" with "beier" or so

This is what 90% of our development time for the past couple of months has been dedicated to. It's a pretty big project, but a very interesting one! Looking forward to seeing it in action. Don't let this one aspect of the project fool you, this is bigger than just integrating a benchmark. Much much bigger.

You mean a CPU-Z validation like this? http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2483860 // http://www.hwbot.org/submission/2308291_

I'm using custom, but disabled doesn't seem to affect anything. Please test custom, though. You never know. Also disable 'direct oc button' and 'advanced turbo mode' and all that stuff. Is it the BCLK you can't adjust in OS? Or also other settings? Trying 1.00x or 1.25x strap? Still trying to verify your voltage issues. I know they are real as I had them at Campus Party as well, but can't remember how to fix it. Have you tried different memory kits? I think they're trying to confirm there are no issues with the 1500 bios before sending out, but they should all be out shortly. I'm not aware of any 'more' mods, but then again ... I'm not aware of any mods at this point. Left the office at 21h and I'm going back in on monday to give the entire MOA platform a test and see what you guys are supposed to be hitting in terms of scores

9A or 63/67 (b3 or b7 maybe?) should be VCCSA or memory related. I was trying to replicate the voltage issue with 4x 4GB GTX7 (which failed) and had 9A a couple of times too. Did you enable "adjust CPU ratio in windows"? What about the Power Technology under CPU Features: custom or disabled?

Seems like people are looking for the GTX650 driver to start benching. Since it's not yet available for the general public, it's not possible to start benching yet. Or, we just make a small modification to the existing v306.02 driver and use that one. V306.02 with GTX650 support: download. Fyi - before anyone starts complaining about leaking stuff. Both the 306.02 driver as well as the information needed to add GTX650 support is available for everyone on the internet. Have fun!

Or else it won't change?

You're in the OC League, right?

Yup, no more silly name changes. If you really hate this new policy, you can complain to the Australians who were messing with this functionality . Otherwise ... :celebration:

Yup. Christian Ney saw 5x 7GHz over livestream and they showed two screenshots with one retail and one ES running 6.8GHz 32M.

Splave, are you running 4x 4GB or 4x 2GB? If the former, can you please test if you have the issues with 2x 4GB too?