Guest Ximi Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 Hi Guys !! The next gen on OS Its W10 .... its allowed at hwbot ? Example : http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/7709471 http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/7709527 http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/7709555 http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/5304614 Quote
Administrators websmile Posted July 12, 2015 Administrators Posted July 12, 2015 As far as I can say, preliminary, win 10 is equal to win8 use, so if win 8 is allowed under certain circumstances, win 10 should be allowed as well. Please wait for final confirmation before you waste time and bench hard though, I think there will soon be an offical statement on this Quote
ObscureParadox Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 I'm pretty sure that statement has already been made, Win 10 has the same rules as 8. Quote
Guest Ximi Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 Ok , thanks for reply and consider it , i am waiting since published official statment. 29 of July W10 its launched officialy. Quote
K404 Posted July 30, 2015 Posted July 30, 2015 Definitely needs a bump.... maybe even a front-page comment? A new Windows OS is a big deal and there's no point in pretending otherwise Quote
Lucky_n00b Posted July 30, 2015 Posted July 30, 2015 Agree, If hwbot staff can list out which benchmarks that are still valid to be run under the windows 10, that might help some users Quote
Christian Ney Posted July 30, 2015 Posted July 30, 2015 What is allowed on Windows 8 is allowed on Windows 10. We are working on something to allow everything on Windows 8/10 but it will take some time. Quote
Massman Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 We'll put up a news, good idea. BTW, I tested Windows 10 on Haswell-E yesterday and I though HPET was enabled by default. Can anyone confirm this? Quote
_mat_ Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 It's normally enabled by default in Windows 8 as well. Quote
Christian Ney Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 ofc it is enabled by default but it is not by default the default/main timer Quote
RagingCain Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 We'll put up a news, good idea. BTW, I tested Windows 10 on Haswell-E yesterday and I though HPET was enabled by default. Can anyone confirm this? It is not. Massman you silly goose. Use my darn program I built for you. Harmonic v0.003 Quote
_mat_ Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 ofc it is enabled by default but it is not by default the default/main timerIt could depend on the hardware/drivers that are installed, like it is the case for Windows 7. On my system it was enabled by default and used as the primary timer by QueryPerformanceCounter(). Quote
Massman Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 Desktop or notebook? On my notebook it was disabled by default, but on the desktop enabled. Quote
_mat_ Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 Desktop with Haswell-E and Windows 8 install with upgrade to 8.1. Well, it doesn't matter anyway, because we can not rely on any Windows version that QPC is handled by the HPET. The same goes for Windows 7, but we can rely on RTC there, which can not be skewed. That problem only exists in W8. Has anybody tried RTC on Windows 10? I assume it has the same problems as 8, but we should test it. If Microsoft solved the problem, depending on the timer used, a few benchmarks could be allowed. And GPUPI can fallback on RTC as well. Edit: My copy is currently on its way, I will test it as soon as I've installed it. Quote
RagingCain Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 Desktop with Haswell-E and Windows 8 install with upgrade to 8.1. Well, it doesn't matter anyway, because we can not rely on any Windows version that QPC is handled by the HPET. The same goes for Windows 7, but we can rely on RTC there, which can not be skewed. That problem only exists in W8. Has anybody tried RTC on Windows 10? I assume it has the same problems as 8, but we should test it. If Microsoft solved the problem, depending on the timer used, a few benchmarks could be allowed. And GPUPI can fallback on RTC as well. Edit: My copy is currently on its way, I will test it as soon as I've installed it. It uses a software + hardware combination for clocks, however, I have not tested the fact that manipulating the bClock or FSB interferes with time sensitive applications like benchmarks. The HPET testing program I built is going to be incorporated into my CPU Thread Benchmark program though. It operates off of QPC / QPF and shouldn't be prone to BCLOCK or FSB manipulation. We are also going to work with Massman for HWBOT integration soon too. We plan on fully supporting Win Vista, 7, 8, 8.1, and 10. Quote
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