stasio Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 Pt1t, are you getting these files from the manufacturers, or are you modding them somehow? If it's the latter, can you share how you're doing it? I'd like a version of the file for my (cheap-ass) P67A-UD3. Thanks. GA-P67A-UD3 - F5 Quote
sincx Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 GA-P67A-UD3 - F5 I don't think this has the PLL Overvoltage fix. There's no additional BIOS option related to turning PLL overvoltage on or off, and I haven't noticed a difference in performance. It's also not mentioned in the BIOS release notes. Any other ideas? Quote
Sanko Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 (edited) Using the latest .174 BIOS from MSI on the P67A-GD65, using ratio x50 or over it gave me PXE-E01 error. No matter what voltage adjustment altered didn't help. sigh. Edit: Enabling the PPL option works. Value keep Auto. Edited January 10, 2011 by Sanko Quote
Chiller Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 Pt1t, are you getting these files from the manufacturers, or are you modding them somehow? think he gets them Quote
RawZ Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 Think he gets them. Spoke to GB today who gave me the P6x BIOS they use internally. Should be released soon to sort out the issues people are having clocking the UD7. Quote
bartman1973 Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 I have tried 1.74 for GD55 and seems working for me .. but the thing is I set the voltage @ 1.522 only in BIOS but cpuz reads 1.555 ...too much droop Quote
RawZ Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 I have the same issue on my GD55. I'll boot in at 1.43, yet under load the vdroop pushes it down to bang on 1.4v even with LLC enabled. Quote
99tomcat Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 (edited) i wait for fix bios to asrock p67 pro3- cheap and popular mobo bourgeois to extreme 4 already have Edited January 11, 2011 by 99tomcat Quote
tiborrr Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 Regarding UD3: Great to hear that Masbo! any news on ETA? Quote
kurayami Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 (edited) Anyone using Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P mobo ? I'm thinking about buying one. But not sure It'll able to OC or not. There're only UD4 UD5 UD7 update on first post that fix PLL. And this F5 bios you say it's not fix that. =/ If anyone have any further progress please let me know too. thank you. Edited January 11, 2011 by kurayami Quote
tiborrr Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 Dang, where's that UD3 PLL fixed BIOS when you need one? Quote
stasio Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) Hi guys,I will upload soon on TT forum new beta BIOS for P67A dated 11.January. GA-P67A-UD7 - F7a GA-P67A-UD5 - F6a GA-P67A-UD4 - F7b GA-P67A-UD3 - F6a GA-P67A-UD3P - F6a GA-P67A-UD3R - F7a -Support "Internal CPU PLL Overvoltage" -11.Jan 11 Edit: -it's also on Gigabyte site Edited January 12, 2011 by stasio Quote
Crew Antinomy Posted January 12, 2011 Crew Posted January 12, 2011 Does anybody know when the vendors are going to produce a mainboard with an external PLL? Maybe the ones who have contacts with engineers might answer this question. Quote
Crew Antinomy Posted January 12, 2011 Crew Posted January 12, 2011 So, it's able going >110MHz by QPI? Quote
Crew Antinomy Posted January 12, 2011 Crew Posted January 12, 2011 Another question - when will we see a motherboard with an external PLL with a normal implementation? Quote
Massman Posted January 12, 2011 Author Posted January 12, 2011 The BCLK limitation is a 'feature' of the Sandy Bridge technology. Unless Intel provides workarounds, I don't think we'll see much more than 110. Quote
jmke Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 welcome to 1993; first Pentium released, locked multiplier, locked FSB, than came the motherboards with unlocked FSB option Intel has completed their plan to commercialize overclocking, it was a long road, but now they finally did it; AMD has already done it when the launched their Black editions. Now Intel has perfect control over FSB, Multiplier and no motherboard can overcome the limitations set. Quote
Crew Antinomy Posted January 12, 2011 Crew Posted January 12, 2011 Massman, what do you name under "Sandy bridge technology"? Can you name the parts that you mean under this? Now Intel has perfect control over FSB, Multiplier and no motherboard can overcome the limitations set.Show be read as: Now Intel has perfect control over FSB, Multiplier and no motherboard can overcome the limitations yet. Quote
Massman Posted January 12, 2011 Author Posted January 12, 2011 Antinomy - Everything integrated on the CPU as well as integrating a single clockgen into the P67 chipset. The problem is that everything within the CPU package is running at the same BCLK, much like in the past we had no control over PCI/AGP clock frequency so everything runs 1:1. The clockgen Intel integrated in the P67 is a normal CK505, very similar to what we had on P35/P45/P55/X58. That type of clock generator actually has 'straps' build-in, meaning Intel should be able to open up dividers for this platform where necessary. Perhaps we should hope for a mainboard manufacturer to reverse engineer the P67 chipset :-). As far as I understand from reports on the LGA2011 platform, they will be integrating the dividers in the next platforms so BCLK is fully open again. Quote
Crew Antinomy Posted January 12, 2011 Crew Posted January 12, 2011 What I've been thinking about today is - why can't the CPU be pushed if everything else can? http://www.xfastest.com/cms/tid-55340-5/ - I can see a 200MHz overclocked system on a P67, do you? That's what I was talking about - if this can be done on 1156, why not do on 1155? I thought that the clock were bound inside the chipset, not CPU package. If what you say is true then it's another case and yes, nothing can be done. But... Quote
Massman Posted January 12, 2011 Author Posted January 12, 2011 How it the clockgen implementation on that Asrock board? The clockgen integrated on the P67 is not the key problem. Even on the most recent P55 boards, the clock generators have strap setting to run at 400BCLK (~ P45/X48). The problem is that this the clock generator is locked to 1:1 thus running all components at the same base frequency. Therefore, increasing the BCLK equals increasing the frequency of all the components on the CPU package (eg: USB, PCIe, DMI, ...). The LGA1156 Lynnfield and Clarkdale architecture is a lot simpler in terms of clocking. I'm pretty sure that Asrock implented the P67 as simple P55+Clockgen+extra features. As said before, the type of clockgen Intel integrated in their P67 chipset is the same design as we've been using on P45, P55, X48 etc. It's not strange that Asrock manages 200+ BCLK. Quote
Crew Antinomy Posted January 12, 2011 Crew Posted January 12, 2011 How it the clockgen implementation on that Asrock board?I assume they've traced clocks to external PLL instead of integrated. This means that the clockgen pads and contollers (DMI/PCI-E/SRC (SATA)) clock inputs are not connected on die but are output on package pads. It's the easiest explanation. Another one is that QPI controller is in the CPU while all others are in chipset. Then external PLL is used for clocking the CPU while P67 clockgen is used for it's stuff. But the classical placements of the clock generator on the PCB makes me think that the first idea is closer. Time to write a letter to Asrock support begging them to make a right board with external PLL for SB? Quote
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