Awesome stuff Mat, can't wait to see the final product ☺️

9 hours ago, _mat_ said:

And it's much more than a wrapper. It's a completely new take on the workflow of benchmarking.

Is that what people are wanting?

7 hours ago, GeorgeStorm said:

Is that what people are wanting?

Yes, IMO, in as much as it addresses the compatibility and vulnerability issues that have been the point of many complaints.

On 4/17/2019 at 12:34 AM, GeorgeStorm said:

Is that what people are wanting? 

I don't know the answer to that but for me it feels right...

I was under the impression that people just wanted a wrapper to stop cheating and therefore allow people to use potentially cheatable OS/chip combinations, nothing more but fair enough, time will tell. I'm just a grumpy old man who doesn't like change

Edited April 18, 20196 yr by GeorgeStorm

On 4/17/2019 at 9:34 AM, GeorgeStorm said:

Is that what people are wanting?

I thought about this long and hard today. I have a vision of course. A vision that came together in the last few years while working on and supporting GPUPI, talking to overclockers, researching benchmark security and breaking every bench out there.
So yes, I think that poeple want easier access to benching to get the community growing. They want to trust all posted results, screenshots and system data. I also think that everybody wants more system data, like much more! And I am pretty sure nobody wants to ever fill out a submission form again for ten results in a row.

That said I made a decision today. Fulfilling my promises will take more time and I don't think we have that luxury. We need a solution right now. So I am going to take a big shortcut and release the first few versions of BenchMate as a wrapper to HWBOT. Although I disabled a couple of features again, this will be a HUGE step forward in the right direction. I am currently working on integrating HWBOT submissions by result file and online. It shouldn't take too long, so expect a beta version very soon.

Edited April 18, 20196 yr by _mat_

12 hours ago, GeorgeStorm said:

I was under the impression that people just wanted a wrapper to stop cheating and therefore allow people to use potentially cheatable OS/chip combinations, nothing more but fair enough, time will tell. I'm just a grumpy old man who doesn't like change

Don't get me wrong - I don't like change either but I also kind of feel like if I rank higher than someone else just because I had the time to figure out which O/S runs such and such benchmark faster that it really doesn't test my skill level or accurately gauge where I'm at.

If there is a fallacy in this line of thought I'm more than willing to be corrected ?

EDIT: Just read what Mat's wrote above.... Mat - please - the first thing that would be helpful would be if you setup a donation link!

Edited April 19, 20196 yr by marco.is.not.80
Just read mat's post!

37 minutes ago, marco.is.not.80 said:

Don't get me wrong - I don't like change either but I also kind of feel like if I rank higher than someone else just because I had the time to figure out which O/S runs such and such benchmark faster that it really doesn't test my skill level or accurately gauge where I'm at.

 

Yes it does.

Benchmarking is a total package, not just whipping your hardware.

Overclocking is whipping your hardware.

Benchmarking is actually doing something with your overclock.....which requires a little more thought and resourcefulness to get a better score. After all, the score is what matters, not just the overclock used.

On 4/18/2019 at 5:42 PM, Mr.Scott said:

Yes it does.

Benchmarking is a total package, not just whipping your hardware.

Overclocking is whipping your hardware.

Benchmarking is actually doing something with your overclock.....which requires a little more thought and resourcefulness to get a better score. After all, the score is what matters, not just the overclock used.

If you make that distinction between "overclocking" and "benchmarking" then I see your point. I guess I never really thought of them as being different.