Massman Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 Hello all, For some time now, I've been thinking about the place of SiSoft Sandra at HWBOT. The benchmark's rankings lost its meaning with all the different versions floating around and has been hwboint-less since 2007 and even back in 2006 we had a discussion about the future of the bench here at HWBOT (http://hwbot.org/forum/showthread.php?t=336). For me, this benchmark is no longer needed at the bot. I notice from submission statistics that very few people are still submitting scores to it and if they do, it's probably just to fill their profile. In the last 7 months (2011) less than 100 people submitted a score to the database. Next to that, the vast amount of SiSoft versions makes comparison pretty much useless. I would propose to completely remove the benchmark from HWBOT. We can look for an alternative to replace SiSoft. So far, the reponses are quite unanimous: no one has really spoken for keeping Sandra as it is now. Vote! Quote
Guest Ximi Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 Alternative can be add PC Mark 7 with points , is the latest FM launch and need to promove it. Sisoft is dont need , since 2006-2007 and dont progress with points and submissions , I vote remove it. Quote
Luebke Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 maybe you could make a list of benchmarks, that could replace the sandra? there are a lot of different benchmarks. maybe a hd-tune for hdd-benches? there are lots of benches vor cpu und gpu, and one for board and two for ram but no bench for hdd/ssd. and as cathegories: hdd: - 5,25" ide - 3,5" ide, sata (II, III), scsi (div.) - 2,5" ide, sata (II, III), scsi (div.) - 1,8" ide, sata (II, III), scsi? ssd usb-sticks maybe cd-rom, dvd-rom and blue-ray, too? that would be more hardware to bench Quote
saint19 Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 I vote for remove it and add points to PCMark07 as ximi say. I only ran this bench once time and wasn't very productive. Quote
knopflerbruce Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 I have never ran sandra, but isn't it memory related? So a memory benchmark should replace it? Quote
redmax Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 I think its dumb to have benches on HWBot that don't offer points. I'm sure there is a reason for this, of which I have no idea what is. Quote
knopflerbruce Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 I think its dumb to have benches on HWBot that don't offer points. I'm sure there is a reason for this, of which I have no idea what is. Well, benches like 3dmark99 and 2000 are here just for "fun", and not die hard competition. Quote
Hondacity Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 its a benchmark...and this is a database site...its not dumb at all Quote
K404 Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 Why did HWB not enforce that a certain version was used, like for wPrime? Quote
Guest Ximi Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 Incentive with HW points , update the latest versions of Sandra , update rules , etc ... promotion on use it. Quote
DrSwizz Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 @Massman One of the reasons there are so few benmchmark submissions SiSoft Sandra is probably because the rules specifies SiSoft Sandra 2007, a version which does not seem to be available for download anymore. I did some googling for it a few weeks ago, but could not even find it on any third-party websites. Quote
Gamer Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 http://www.filehippo.com/download_sandra_lite/1382/ Quote
Crew Turrican Posted July 25, 2011 Crew Posted July 25, 2011 http://www.filehippo.com/download_sandra_lite/1382/ just looked. i have the same version and many more in my archives on my server. Quote
Luebke Posted July 26, 2011 Posted July 26, 2011 whats about my idea with a hdd/ssd-bench? am i the only one who wants to bench more pc-parts instead of more benches for the same parts? Quote
Massman Posted July 26, 2011 Author Posted July 26, 2011 whats about my idea with a hdd/ssd-bench? am i the only one who wants to bench more pc-parts instead of more benches for the same parts? http://hwbot.org/forum/showthread.php?t=28707 Quote
Luebke Posted July 26, 2011 Posted July 26, 2011 (edited) AHHH! =D but please a lot of different cathegories. if just the fastest hdd/ssd counts, there will be just ssd-benches and a few or no hdd-benches. each cathegorie for it´s own: 1,8", 2,5", 3,5", 5,25"... maybe 5400 rpm, 7200 rpm and 10000 rpm... and please separate ide, sata, scsi... the more cathegories, the more benches, the more fun! oh it´s realy difficult to find a programm to verify what controller and (raid-)setup was used Edited July 26, 2011 by Luebke Quote
Massman Posted July 27, 2011 Author Posted July 27, 2011 The outcome of this vote is quite clear, SiSoft Sandra has been removed. Quote
Vinster Posted July 28, 2011 Posted July 28, 2011 I've only used it to fill some of my gaps in benches, didn't really like running it, I like the HD bench idea, but it needs sub categories. Vin Quote
flanker Posted July 30, 2011 Posted July 30, 2011 U know,I am fighting for Cinebench. r11.5, it is really good optimized bench based on real aplication.Thinking, Im not alone,who want here this benchmark... Alternative is from my side y-cruncher. Quote
froxic Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 Y-cruncher or R11.5, but no more SISOFT craps. Quote
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