steelrat Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 There a bug in the world record points, and I don't have time right now to fix it When? Understand please, this is very important, all the selections for tournaments GOOC and MOA 2010 according to the rating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H@Nter Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 richba5tard, as Team MXS captain I officially kindly ask you to fix this bug, or to promote the question decision with SteelRat`s global points score. I is really quite important before Ukrainian MOA and GOOC chalange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 There is no bug. The global points indicated in the team page are the total amount of global points that goes to the team. The ones in your profile are the total amount of points that go to your personal score. Because you can, for instance, get global points in 1xGPU and 2xGPU there can exist a difference between the numbers. Points in team page = TOTAL of Global points + TOTAL of Hardware points Points in personal page = SUM OF global points of best submissions + MAX. 300 hardware points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richba5tard Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 I thought steelrat was talking about some people getting wr bonus points twice, or am i mistaken? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelrat Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 (edited) There is no bug. The global points indicated in the team page are the total amount of global points that goes to the team. The ones in your profile are the total amount of points that go to your personal score. Because you can, for instance, get global points in 1xGPU and 2xGPU there can exist a difference between the numbers. Points in team page = TOTAL of Global points + TOTAL of Hardware points Points in personal page = SUM OF global points of best submissions + MAX. 300 hardware points. perhaps I do not understand correctly. Here's another example: Now i have: wPrime 32m - 26sec 609ms - (AMD Sempron 140 @5629MHz) - 27.8 and TOTAL - 440.30 - points. If i deleted this result, i lose 10 point, but not 27.8 - and have 430.30 points. Why? the same thing happens if i add a result, added only 10 points not 27.8. Edited April 24, 2010 by steelrat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelrat Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richba5tard Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 perhaps I do not understand correctly. Here's another example: Now i have: wPrime 32m - 26sec 609ms - (AMD Sempron 140 @5629MHz) - 27.8 and TOTAL - 440.30 - points. If i deleted this result, i lose 10 point, but not 27.8 - and have 430.30 points. Why? the same thing happens if i add a result, added only 10 points not 27.8. It's because when you delete this submission, your second best sempron 140 wprime 32m submission gets points, which is 10 points less than your best submission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richba5tard Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Hi ppl There is a bug with livestream video link i guess I've started my livestream, but hwbot page dont show that My channel (Xtremelabsorg , 8th) dissapeared in offline list but did not appeared in broadcasting now Also no Broadcasting 1 video in recent block Streams are checked every 10 minutes, not instantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 It's because when you delete this submission, your second best sempron 140 wprime 32m submission gets points, which is 10 points less than your best submission. This is correct. As far as I can see, there's no bug in the current algorithm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelrat Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 This is correct. As far as I can see, there's no bug in the current algorithm. Hmmm, may be you are right. Thx! One more. You can create in Overclockers for each Country rankings change "Day, Week, Month", example: Uploaded with ImageShack.us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klopcha Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 There is a problem with the result (Do not display details): http://hwbot.org/community/submission/943363_terraraptor_3dmark_2003_geforce2_mx200_161_marks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Antinomy Posted May 3, 2010 Crew Share Posted May 3, 2010 (edited) It's not the only one. T've met this bug earlier. Wish I could remeber the categories. Can look through again if it's vital. http://hwbot.org/rankings/worldrecords - another bug. The 3DMark Vantage places - the #3 score has 54641 points and #4 - 55478. But the global ranking shows everything correct including HWboints received. The problem is only with the record page. Edited May 3, 2010 by Antinomy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoccoESA Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 (edited) i have 2 submission with same points (global) - and now i have not more global points for me http://hwbot.org/community/submission/957209_roccoesa_wprime_1024m_core_2_e8600_3.33ghz_7min_0sec_340ms good for 6.8 points for team total, but not personal total, as his 4x CPU submission earns more points[/Quote] http://hwbot.org/community/submission/953056_roccoesa_wprime_1024m_xeon_w3570_2min_37sec_140ms good for 6.8 points for team total, but not personal total, as his 2x CPU submission earns more points. i have now the same problem with vantage http://hwbot.org/community/submission/993622_roccoesa_3dmark_vantage___performance_2x_radeon_hd_5870_37783_marks good for 27.6 points for team total, but not personal total, as his 1x GPU submission earns more points. and http://hwbot.org/community/submission/993619_roccoesa_3dmark_vantage___performance_radeon_hd_5870_26043_marks good for 27.7 points for team total, but not personal total, as his 2x GPU submission earns more points. Edited May 8, 2010 by RoccoESA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knopflerbruce Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 This is indeed a bug, but it will go away as soon as one of the two similar submissions lose (or gain) 0.1 boint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoccoESA Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 i have 0.1 points difference i have now the same problem with vantage http://hwbot.org/community/submission/993622_roccoesa_3dmark_vantage___performance_2x_radeon_hd_5870_37783_marks good for 27.6 points for team total, but not personal total, as his 1x GPU submission earns more points. and http://hwbot.org/community/submission/993619_roccoesa_3dmark_vantage___performance_radeon_hd_5870_26043_marks good for 27.7 points for team total, but not personal total, as his 2x GPU submission earns more points. strangely - or? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knopflerbruce Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 Hmmm, maybe the next global boint calculation will take care of it. If not, Massman or Rich must take a look at it I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoccoESA Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 now: http://hwbot.org/community/submission/993622_roccoesa_3dmark_vantage___performance_2x_radeon_hd_5870_37783_marks good for 27.0 points for team total, but not personal total, as his 1x GPU submission earns more points. and http://hwbot.org/community/submission/993619_roccoesa_3dmark_vantage___performance_radeon_hd_5870_26043_marks good for 27.7 points for team total, but not personal total, as his 2x GPU submission earns more points. that is however a clear difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyrock Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 I am wondering if the WR bonus point system is working properly. According to the Massman-san's post, http://hwbot.org/forum/showpost.php?p=45007&postcount=1 my understanding is that the bonus points are distributed to the top twenty rankers. Based on this, if you check the rankers from 10th to 19th, they are given to 0.0 bonus pts. And then, 20th ranker earns 5.0 pts. By looking through the ranking, you can find there are a couple of "the 20th ranked" scores, for example, 3Dmark06 ranking has at least 5 different scores ranked 20th and rewarded 5.0 bonus pts each... As far as the bonus point ranking goes, the counting algorithm seems strange. In addition, bonus pts given to scores ranked from 1st to 9th seem to be lower than expected from Massman-san's post. Moreover, I am not sure there is something to do with those above, Hall of Fame rankings of all 3D benchmarks except 01 are somewhat strange. Lower scores are sometimes ranked higher. For example, In 3Dmark06 Hall of Fame ranking, 17th and 18th scores are obviously lower than 20th. http://hwbot.org/rankings/benchmark/3dmark_2006/world_records Checking this would be appreciated. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Hi Gyrock, The opening post you're refering to was to show the proposal and see how the community responds to it. The final version of the 3D-WR points has been adjusted a little bit (an even steeper curve) and can be found in this news post: http://hwbot.org/article/news/hwboints_algorithm_wr_3d_points_introduced_end_of_this_month Concerning the inaccurate world record page: there's indeed a bug in the rankings that needs to be fixed. The ranks attributed to the 'incorrect' scores are correct however. This means that the score that is 17th on the world record page is actually ranked 20th by the engine, but for some unknown reason it's listed as 17th on the world record page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyrock Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Hi Massman-san Thank you for your quick reply! So my understanding about WR bonus pts was based on the older information, I am sorry... Now I'm clear except one thing, which is ; At the moment my 3Dmark06 score is ranked 10th with no bonus. http://hwbot.org/community/submission/999991_gyrock_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5870_41774_marks I checked the ranking down to 100th and found that there are 18 scores marked at 20th place and given 5.0pts bonus. (Sorry guys listed below. I don't intend to accuse you guys, but I do intend to show examples) http://hwbot.org/community/submission/980706_me4me_3dmark_2006_3x_radeon_hd_5870_40539_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1006327_kangaxx_3dmark_2006_radeon_hd_5970_40479_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/988430_leghorn_giorgioprimo_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5870_40094_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/995507_konrad76___lore85bg_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5870_39960_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/983874_icebob_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5870_39934_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/986765_donbe_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5870_39930_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/993951_cische_jungle_3dmark_2006_geforce_gtx_480_39923_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/991940_splave_3dmark_2006_2x_geforce_gtx_480_39881_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/990268_achill3us_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5970_39589_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/945386_joe_cool_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5970_39341_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/898014_masterchorch_3dmark_2006_4x_radeon_hd_4890_39316_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/975161_zolkorn_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5870_38959_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/981474_nanok_3dmark_2006_radeon_hd_5970_38540_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/881569_hipro5_3dmark_2006_4x_radeon_hd_4890_38517_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/977586_cbgpcs_3dmark_2006_4x_radeon_hd_5870_38335_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/936754_kingpin_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5870_38095_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/931263_macci_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5970_38052_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/892341_3oh6_3dmark_2006_4x_radeon_hd_4890_37927_marks It seems that rather older results tend to be left as "20th" so I assume these results once experienced the rank of 20th in the past and the "memory" has remained until now.. Massman-san, I know you are very busy but if you find time, colud you please check this again? Sincerely yours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Okay, so there really is a problem. Thanks for the info, I will have a look at it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyrock Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Hi Massman-san Thanks a lot for your quick check! The same thing seems to happen on other 3D benchmark rankings too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voidn Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Gtx 480 ranks are being displayed incorrectly. Points seem ok though: 3Dmark 2003 GeForce GTX 480 rank: 1st out of 25 http://hwbot.org/community/submission/994158_kingpin_3dmark_2003_geforce_gtx_480_135141_marks 3Dmark 2003 GeForce GTX 480 rank: 16th out of 78 http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1008458_thebanik_3dmark_2003_geforce_gtx_480_104068_marks 3Dmark 2001 GeForce GTX 480 rank: 1st out of 6, good for 2.0 points. http://hwbot.org/community/submission/998347_roccoesa_3dmark_2001_geforce_gtx_480_108155_marks 3Dmark 2001 GeForce GTX 480 rank: 17th out of 18, good for 0.1 points. http://hwbot.org/community/submission/996116_dakara_3dmark_2001_geforce_gtx_480_62892_marks 3Dmark 2006 GeForce GTX 480 rank: 2nd out of 32, good for 13.1 points. http://hwbot.org/community/submission/991995_hiwa_3dmark_2006_geforce_gtx_480_41096_marks 3Dmark 2006 GeForce GTX 480 rank: 47th out of 86, good for 0.1 points. http://hwbot.org/community/submission/990349_withoutgod_3dmark_2006_geforce_gtx_480_33508_marks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richba5tard Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Gtx 480 ranks are being displayed incorrectly. Points seem ok though: 3Dmark 2003 GeForce GTX 480 rank: 1st out of 25 http://hwbot.org/community/submission/994158_kingpin_3dmark_2003_geforce_gtx_480_135141_marks 3Dmark 2003 GeForce GTX 480 rank: 16th out of 78 http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1008458_thebanik_3dmark_2003_geforce_gtx_480_104068_marks 3Dmark 2001 GeForce GTX 480 rank: 1st out of 6, good for 2.0 points. http://hwbot.org/community/submission/998347_roccoesa_3dmark_2001_geforce_gtx_480_108155_marks 3Dmark 2001 GeForce GTX 480 rank: 17th out of 18, good for 0.1 points. http://hwbot.org/community/submission/996116_dakara_3dmark_2001_geforce_gtx_480_62892_marks 3Dmark 2006 GeForce GTX 480 rank: 2nd out of 32, good for 13.1 points. http://hwbot.org/community/submission/991995_hiwa_3dmark_2006_geforce_gtx_480_41096_marks 3Dmark 2006 GeForce GTX 480 rank: 47th out of 86, good for 0.1 points. http://hwbot.org/community/submission/990349_withoutgod_3dmark_2006_geforce_gtx_480_33508_marks Fixed in development build, thank you for reporting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richba5tard Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Hi Massman-san Thank you for your quick reply! So my understanding about WR bonus pts was based on the older information, I am sorry... Now I'm clear except one thing, which is ; At the moment my 3Dmark06 score is ranked 10th with no bonus. http://hwbot.org/community/submission/999991_gyrock_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5870_41774_marks I checked the ranking down to 100th and found that there are 18 scores marked at 20th place and given 5.0pts bonus. (Sorry guys listed below. I don't intend to accuse you guys, but I do intend to show examples) http://hwbot.org/community/submission/980706_me4me_3dmark_2006_3x_radeon_hd_5870_40539_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1006327_kangaxx_3dmark_2006_radeon_hd_5970_40479_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/988430_leghorn_giorgioprimo_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5870_40094_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/995507_konrad76___lore85bg_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5870_39960_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/983874_icebob_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5870_39934_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/986765_donbe_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5870_39930_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/993951_cische_jungle_3dmark_2006_geforce_gtx_480_39923_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/991940_splave_3dmark_2006_2x_geforce_gtx_480_39881_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/990268_achill3us_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5970_39589_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/945386_joe_cool_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5970_39341_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/898014_masterchorch_3dmark_2006_4x_radeon_hd_4890_39316_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/975161_zolkorn_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5870_38959_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/981474_nanok_3dmark_2006_radeon_hd_5970_38540_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/881569_hipro5_3dmark_2006_4x_radeon_hd_4890_38517_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/977586_cbgpcs_3dmark_2006_4x_radeon_hd_5870_38335_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/936754_kingpin_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5870_38095_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/931263_macci_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5970_38052_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/892341_3oh6_3dmark_2006_4x_radeon_hd_4890_37927_marks It seems that rather older results tend to be left as "20th" so I assume these results once experienced the rank of 20th in the past and the "memory" has remained until now.. Massman-san, I know you are very busy but if you find time, colud you please check this again? Sincerely yours Fixed next time this ranking is recalculated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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