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Maybe Sam's "could work with" is a bit different from Massman's "can boot up". So it would be interesting to know how big the difference from boot-stable to bench-stable (to rock-stable) is.

I skipped the bare facts already last week on purpose. :banana:

Hwbot > Facebook ... and luckily no sauna pics!

It would be nice if somebody would like to fix the wrong MHz value of 2786.6 MHz, even if it is not the value relevant to the ranking. DDR-rating is not I/O clock frequency is not chip frequency. Thanks

Maybe it would be a good idea to keep the old API for CPU-Z meanwhile and work on the Windows 8 version seperatly? In case it can't work as good as the old solution (for whatever reason) it would be worth considering providing different CPU-Z versions in general, too. I don't see a good reason for risking the reliability - which Franck has built up for years - for a non-final OS, which will be released at the end of the year (and isn't built for PCs in the first way) and will not overcome the spreading of all released and working OSes people use today productively in the foreseeable future, CPU-Z runs (almost ) perfectly fine on.

Folks, we're dealing with a raptor container, not the cougar edition.

Folks, dinos22 is a dirty cheater!

That's the true Andre Yang backup style - reaching >8.7 GHz and not publishing it for almost 8 monts Very impressive result, congratulations!

You guys scare me seriously. I can't remember I ever destroyed hardware on purpose or tried to while benching. If you're nice to your setup, it's nice to you. (Exceptions prove the rule.)

Thank you guys!

So you're the boss now? Hwbot is doomed!

If you google that stuff like this appears: If you see these ones on the street, you're dealing with an AMD guy for sure.:banana:

I've noticed the first videos showing the new 3DMark for Windows 8 are online. It's a recurring scene which lasts about a minute. It shows a sci-fi-scene with a cloak-wearing villain(?) and a flying unmanned aerial vehicle with some sexy tentacles. Technically it offers a lot of smoke, many particles and overframing glooming. MSI GTX 680 Lightning @ SLI can handle it, but I guess we're not seeing more than 20 Fps here most of the time. However it's hard to tell from the video, because tearing, micro-stuttering and the recording itself can have a large effect. Video from PCGH: http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,889272/3DMark-for-Windows-8-Erste-Szenen-im-Video/Benchmark/News/ Video from Tweaktown (there you can see the system it's running at, but it's a bit more shaky unfortunately):

That's some nice raw CPU power! I guess you use this setup for F@H normally, right?

Even if it is not an i7-3770K this CPU would have been useful for you at the Gigabyte EOC for sure. Nice to see you found a decent chip!

Very nice score, congratulations! Btw it's not possible with Ivy Bridge these days (1M@7.2 GHz anyone? ), but we're pretty close to the sub5 milestone.

Great reference clock (and core frequency of course)! However I'm curious how this chip performs in benchmarks e.g. compared to Andre's i7-3770K, which can run 1M @ 6.962 MHz (4c/4t!).

Nice one! Can Intels grandma also detach the IHS, change the TIM and put the stuff together to get better OC results?:nana: Wprime v1.55 uses an old detection engine which isn't able to recognize modern CPUs.

It's not a bug, but something that could/should be improved. If we have a CPU category with 8 cores and dual-socket-ability - wouldn't it be a good idea to set 16 cores as default setting when you choose to have a look at the results achieved with a dual-socket-mainboard? Have a look at the Xeon E5-2687W for example: http://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/xeon_e5_2687w/ You have to choose "Dual socket" first (which is fine) to see the benchmark overview. If you decide to watch the Wprime rankings the setting "Number of cores" has the value 8 - that would be useful if you would have chosen the "Single socket" option, but not if you're already at the "Dual socket" section. I suggest to adjust the "Number of core" setting according the chosen amount of sockets multiplied with the number of cores the CPU is specified for in general. Example: 2-core-CPU + "single-socket" --> Default setting for "Number of cores" = 2 2-core-CPU + "dual-socket" --> Default setting for "Number of cores" = 4 2-core-CPU + "quad-socket" --> Default setting for "Number of cores" = 8 and so on. Edit: Feel free to move this post into the feedback thread because I don't describe a bug.

Hehe, nice one.

Congrats! However the frequency description should be fixed - according to the rejected validation it's 8373.8 MHz, not 8373.1 MHz.

The more I thought about this topic the more I think Hwbot shouldn't do anything, because the situation right now might be far from being perfect or let use the word "fair", but from a realistic point of view there's no way to change this without causing a lot of trouble and creating new unfairness. - Why enforce something because of a matter you can't prove (with the possibilities of Hwbot)? Do we really want a community where stalker have to check the Facebook page, twitter messages, forum posts and so on to prove somebody gets "too much stuff" for staying in the Overclockers league? - Why does it matter if you pay for your 100 CPUs or not as long as you're able to use them and pick the cherries? If you don't have to pay it's for sure an advantage. But if you are able to buy them you have exactly the same advantage plus you can basically afford everything else you need to climb up the ranking and are not dependent from any vendor/shop at all. Welcome back to another "money rules OC-world"-discussion ... [irony warning]If you still think "Whoa, witch-hunting in this matter is so much needed!" then where do you want to draw the line? Has somebody to join pro league if he gets ten CPUs donated (e.g. from a relative)? Are 10 pieces fine and 20 are too much? Do people have to send their invoices to Hwbot every week or is one time per month enough? Of course not - it should be mandatory to upload a dozen invoices for every component you used when you upload a result, right? But don't forget: There are loopholes! You can photoshop every invoice you send in. So we need a validation process for sure. Oh, and what do we do with the shop owners that submit results? Maybe your daddy owns a PC shop. Can we trust these invoices? Maybe it's a fake invoice from the very beginning - does the shop even exist and sell the listed items? Dont worry, I know what you're thinking: Invoices are not reliable and maybe the wrong way to begin with. Hwbot users should send their monthly paycheck instead! Unemployed and a golden sample out of the blue is somehow fishy, don't you agree? Time to call the tax office to get this sorted! Hwbot can create a social league for poor people who souldn't overclock at all, right? Do people have to report back to Hwbot if they inherit some money? ... when you inherit CPUs? Maybe your grandma had a golden one in her money sock - that would be killer hardware you didn't pay for, right? (Cool signature line and meme template: "Grandma made me pro!") Can Hwbot afford to hire a nitpicker to check this? Maybe we're lucky an someone stops overclocking to watch all these exciting invoices and paychecks in his freetime. Shouldn't he visit Hwbot users from time to time at home - unannounced of course - and search the closets for hidden, dirty and unpaid CPUs? Maybe we can smuggle the same guy into the CPU mafia to prepare a great bust after he brought us global peace at the weekend, too.[/irony warning]

... but do the black ones fit into the same slots?