RomanLV Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 Socket 479? Socket M and Socket P suited too? Quote
TASOS Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 For competitions , we usually follow the charts of the hwbot database. In my opinion , the allowed hardware is the following http://hwbot.org/hardware/processors#key=s479 Socket M & socket P , have their own categories Quote
RomanLV Posted March 1, 2016 Author Posted March 1, 2016 What is allowed - I am understand I not understand - why the 479 noted allowed, but socket M - no. Do not understand the logic. Quote
Crew Strunkenbold Posted March 1, 2016 Crew Posted March 1, 2016 Socket M and P may have the same amount of pins but they are electrically incompatible. Even more, Socket P features Core 2 CPUs which can not be really considered oldschool. The point of this stage is to grab yourself some CT479 adapter and beat Hipro5 old records. Even if you dont have such an adapter you still can participate with a stock s478 system. Quote
TASOS Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 ... The point of this stage is to grab yourself some CT479 adapter and beat Hipro5 old records. ... You made it look sooo simple PM incoming about something in the cpu database. Quote
RomanLV Posted March 1, 2016 Author Posted March 1, 2016 Socket M and P may have the same amount of pins but they are electrically incompatible. Even more, Socket P features Core 2 CPUs which can not be really considered oldschool.The point of this stage is to grab yourself some CT479 adapter and beat Hipro5 old records. Even if you dont have such an adapter you still can participate with a stock s478 system. ie this round of the competition adapters, not processors Who has adapter - he is winner fine! ) Socket M and P may have the same amount of pins but they are electrically incompatible. Socket 479 another? and beat Hipro5 old records. I thought, for to beat need a 775 QX processor, but it turns the adapter. Quote
Crew Strunkenbold Posted March 1, 2016 Crew Posted March 1, 2016 Well I think the round was designed to use the CT-479. But even if you dont have such a tool you can still participate. I really dont know whats so bad about that. Quote
RomanLV Posted March 1, 2016 Author Posted March 1, 2016 Well I think the round was designed to use the CT-479. But even if you dont have such a tool you can still participate. I really dont know whats so bad about that. The bad as least thing is that the are placed in unequal conditions those who have an adapter and those who have not. Why forbidden was use the SlotA - socketA. 423-478. Furthermore those processors that have identical cores. And here - absolutely different processors combined. And this it turns out ... weird :-/ Quote
Crew Strunkenbold Posted March 1, 2016 Crew Posted March 1, 2016 It isnt weird this is simply a Pentium M stage. You dont need that adapter, you can also buy a Socket M board with 855GM. Also if you have adapters to use Slot A in a Socket 462 board or Socket 423 in Socket 478 boards you really had the chance to use them, they were always allowed. I just doubt that those adapters exists. Anyway, there are probably every week CT-479 adapters on ebay worldwide you can just grab one. Quote
RomanLV Posted March 1, 2016 Author Posted March 1, 2016 It isnt weird this is simply a Pentium M stage. Pentium M + AGP? It is not Old School - it is exclusive school IMHO round is not thought over PS or I am mistaken and all vice versa - very good is thought over Quote
Marquzz Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 The bad as least thing is that the are placed in unequal conditions those who have an adapter and those who have not. Why forbidden was use the SlotA - socketA. 423-478. Furthermore those processors that have identical cores. And here - absolutely different processors combined. And this it turns out ... weird :-/ Here you go http://www.ebay.com/itm/Raritat-ASUS-CT-479-Adapter-Sockel-478-auf-479-CPU-Updgrade-Kit-NEU-OVP-/172116731779?hash=item2812f4e783:g:Z9YAAOSwezVW0X81 Quote
Crew Antinomy Posted March 2, 2016 Crew Posted March 2, 2016 To clear things out it looks like socket 478B and socket 479 (478C) are allowed only. There are too many flavors of 478 Quote
Crew Strunkenbold Posted March 2, 2016 Crew Posted March 2, 2016 Pentium M + AGP? There are also Desktop Socket 479 boards with AGP. http://www.anandtech.com/show/1610 Quote
Crew Antinomy Posted March 2, 2016 Crew Posted March 2, 2016 There are also Desktop Socket 479 boards with AGP.Most notable are AOpen and DFI.I think he was referring to the rarity of such boards back then. Quote
Christian Ney Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 (edited) Who is going to try LGA775 board with LGA775to478 adapter with s478tos479 adapter with s479 CPU? #Adaptception #479on775 Edited March 2, 2016 by Christian Ney Quote
Mr.Scott Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 Who is going to try LGA775 board with LGA775to478 adapter with s478tos479 adapter with s479 CPU? #Adaptception #479on775 Good idea. :celebration: Quote
Marquzz Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 Who is going to try LGA775 board with LGA775to478 adapter with s478tos479 adapter with s479 CPU? #Adaptception #479on775 The problem will be to find a motherboard that support the pentium m. But it would be fun if someone got it to work Quote
lanbonden Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 Pentium M + AGP? It is not Old School - it is exclusive school IMHO round is not thought over PS or I am mistaken and all vice versa - very good is thought over As the designer of all the stages this competitions is a combination of what I wanted to bench and what other wanted to bench aswell as things that havent been benched much in competitions before. And tbh I dont really understand the problem here, a 479 adapters where common at that time and if you dont have one they costs like $15 with pretty decent availability, compare that to the slot A stage where and the chanse to get hold of a Slot A thunderbird for example! Quote
havli Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 Who is going to try LGA775 board with LGA775to478 adapter with s478tos479 adapter with s479 CPU? #Adaptception #479on775 Don't forget pci-e -> AGP adapter. Anyway, round 4 will be interesting. My Pentium M 770 + CT479 are waiting. Quote
max1024 Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 Can I rigth understand that allowed: all S-478 P-4 cpu's, and S-479 cpu's with Banias and Dothan core? Quote
lanbonden Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 Can I rigth understand that allowed: all S-478 P-4 cpu's, and S-479 cpu's with Banias and Dothan core? Yes, easiest way to say it is: If the CPU is included in any of these lists its allowed. http://hwbot.org/hardware/processors#key=s478 http://hwbot.org/hardware/processors#key=s479 Quote
Crew Antinomy Posted March 3, 2016 Crew Posted March 3, 2016 Who is going to try LGA775 board with LGA775to478 adapter with s478tos479 adapter with s479 CPU? #Adaptception #479on775 Been there, done that it's a pain in the arse. Quote
RomanLV Posted March 4, 2016 Author Posted March 4, 2016 As the designer of all the stages this competitions is a combination of what I wanted to bench and what other wanted to bench aswell as things that havent been benched much in competitions before. And tbh I dont really understand the problem here, a 479 adapters where common at that time and if you dont have one they costs like $15 with pretty decent availability, compare that to the slot A stage where and the chanse to get hold of a Slot A thunderbird for example! The point is not that a problem to find. The fact that ruined a good picture of the season. All stages - benching processor and graphics card. And here suddenly - benching adapter. Well, ok, since all are not against, then I'm wrong. Quote
ZFeSS Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 And here suddenly - benching adapter. You still can participate without it. As for me - benching 479 is a old good thing. Using 479 CPUs was quite popular those days. More popular than Slot A There are over 1k submissions with Pentium M 740 for example. Quote
TASOS Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 The point is not that a problem to find. The fact that ruined a good picture of the season.All stages - benching processor and graphics card. And here suddenly - benching adapter. Well, ok, since all are not against, then I'm wrong. To be honest , i kind of agree with you. (i dont agree with the "ruined" word). It would have been more proper ? (i dont know if this is the correct word) To have a clear stage for the socket 478 cpu's. ... and have an other stage for the 479's Mixing those two to compete against ... is a no go. Quote
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