knopflerbruce

Reminds me of the old version. I really missed a feature where you could get an easy overview of CPUs/GPUs of a particular family.

I think this was discussed at some point, and the answer was no. Imagine the mess with older Intel CPUs, where you had a dozen steppings (P4 etc)

+1, same argument: why not add team hardware point when you have user hardware enabled already?

IMO there should be a separate category for this chip. We made one for the i7 940 Boomfield B0's that were unlocked... so it's been done before. As for letting this chip get global boints... that's not quite fair, as there is no equivalent retail model available (with unlocked multiplier).

But isn't HTPP related to hardware points? Globals are overkill, but there's no real reason to not add HTPP when we have the "personal version" already. It just makes the benefit for the team a bit bigger.

HTPP should be enabled, though - they're hardware related boints, not globals.

And how do you get a proper ranking list out of this system? 10 points to the person who is 4th, 8 to 3rd/5th and so on? Just asking, as atm the person who has the best score gets 10 points ^^

I think there are valid arguments both for and against sandbagging. I wouldn't want the old system to disappear, but to have some contests using anti-sandbagging rules would be cool too - the ideas are not bad at all.

I don't see what's unethic about competing if you're a member of the staff. The only problem would be if a score got questioned, but we don't have a habit of treating mods in a different way than a regular user. I can't see that being a moderator would be an advantage in any competition either. It's not like there is a thread for competition content most of the time. I think only massman knew about this one, for example.

So no 6c12t chips for 1155? MEEEEEEH!

It would be silly if someone used a Celeron D ES and had to move to the pro league because of it. That said, if we want to keep the engineering sample style competition out of the XOC league, then allowing GT's isn't a wise idea, so perhaps counting generations of HW is not that clever.

Meh, hotheads:D Shut up or I'll get my dewar filled and run my Opteron 1224 again:p aaaand see if my nf7-s 2.0 is working:D The voltage is sick for chilled water, but 3900 is definately doable if you can boot into windows without frying the chip:p

If the issue is that massman "knows" the stage details before everyone else, a simple solution is to announce stage details earlier in general - also for the monthly challenges.

I don't think this change is about the core/thread discussion, so I assume we still count cores, and nothing else => both are considered to be dual cores, and therefore 2x.

Even the "shitty" WRs are hard to beat (unless we're talking about 24x wprime and stuff like that). It's not fair that you can buy some random gulftown and a gtx580, ln2 both, and get plenty of globals in all 3dmarks with no effort, whereas you get only a handful of boints when submitting a score that's actually really good - for example a wprime 3x gold cup. Being top 10 is quite easy in some of those rankings, but making it to top 3 requires alot of skill and effort, so it's a good thing that such submissions will receive an amount of boints that shows the quality of the result. Edit: this shouldn't apply to ALL rankings, only where you can actually overclock - we don't have to give 60 boints to a server ran at stock, that's just silly. But anything up to and including 12x CPU - yes

This was discussed before, and I think the outcome was that an AC unit is fine, anything related to dryice is of course not. I can't remember what we ended up with in the case of a chiller, but I THINK it was OK'ed - but I'm not 100% sure.

So if it's indeed bugged in some way, we have to let it stay because it's old? C'mon:D Bugged is bugged, 1 day old or 4 years.

Sooooooo... this is about some guys who didn't read the rules and posted some weird scores and admitted doing so before a case was made at all? How about the following solution: any scores that turned out to be not according to the rules are deleted, and..... well, that's it?

Joe screwed up. If he's not banned, then I can only assume it's because of the missing banbutton functionality. If I could, I would:)

While I don't fully agree with all of massman's posts here, I do agree to the fact that it's a good idea to keep the enthusiast league a bit "rookie-like". Even though you deserve the points, you're still not the type of bencher that should be in the enthusiast league at all - you SHOULD step up And if you step up, there is no problem...

The 650T is a native 4 core chip 1505T is just the "unlock" name, you get it when unlocking more cores or cache.

War:D

I don't get this either - just push to get higher bclk. PS: your math is awful there are not 100 seconds in a minute. Correct PP values are 31692, 31991, 32471, 31903, 33031, 33124 and 33428.

But on the other hand, isn't it a bit weird to beat the CPU to death when there is a KNOWN OS bug that cripples the performance? OK, it won't rape the high end, but it could be a good bang for the buck chip once these issues are solved by m$.

Lol:D Obviously SLI run, and the GPUZ bug is well-known. No need to be angry, you complain about details all the time, and ask people to read the rules when you don't know them yourself (ref: CPUZ validation requirements).