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Currently, we don't have control over any memory timings, except the main 5. AMD's AGESA code provides "tables" with different sets of timings depending on the divider used. Whenever you use e.g. 2666 divider, you always get the same set of timings and you can only change main 5 in bios - all other subtimings are what AMD thought suitable. Higher divider - slacker timings - higher latency. If you want the best possible results, you have to increase bclk and use lower divider (with tighter subtimings). There's another thing. I have tried 4x8 single rank Samsung B-die and it is impossible to boot at anything lower than CAS18 on 3200 divider, so if I want to run 3200C14 with four sticks and decent timings, I have to use lower divider in combination with bclk. There's something wrong with higher dividers. Same thing applies to 2x16 dual rank, I think, but have no such sticks to verify. 3200 with CAS lower than 18 basically only works with 1 sngle rank dimm per channel (2x8/2x4). Many people with high density kits have problems booting with higher dividers at all, so this is another reason to use lower dividers. PCI-E drops to GEN2, but I don't think this is a big issue even for 24/7. For benching you can go much higher in bclk, but for 24/7 it is not really recommended.

I will wait 2 more years, then will kill all rankings with some new DDR4 and cheaper CPUs PS: If XTU is still alive, lol.

Gold digger

TIM layer looks very thick. Next time you might want to try what I do: pre-heat the pot with a hot air gun or even a hairdryer and apply the paste on the pot, rather than on the cpu. Mount it, but twist a little before tightening the bolts. I know Roman shows how "easy" it is to spread the Kryonaut with the supplied applicator, but in reality my Kryonaut looks much thicker and harder to spread compared to his video. It falls apart and the pieces stick to the applicator, rather than the IHS, so pre-heating the surface and the syringe helps to make it a little more liquid than it is. I'd say I'm rather disappointed by Kryonaut.

I have 2 kits: One is older (Jan 2016) 3600C17 (17-18-18-38 XMP) and the other one is more recent 3733C17 (17-17-17-37 XMP). The 3200C14 test was done with both kits in a 4x8GB combination. Both kits do 4000+ 12-11-11 on Apex motherboard.

Just to make things more clear for you. You only receive points for your best submission with a given hardware. Benchmarks are divided into CPU, GPU, Motherboard and RAM. CPU-Z is a CPU benchmark, so the motherboard doesn't matter for the points. If you submit the exact same CPU model with 10 different motherboards, you will only get hw points for the best submission out of these 10. Motherboards are only ranked by FSB frequency. You use the cpu-z validation again, but this time you enter the motherboard reference clock. This time you have the opposite - the ranked hw is this specific motherboard model, so it doesn't matter if you submit 10 different results with 10 different CPUs using this motherboard. You still see your old submission with this motherboard in the rankings, but it does not add to your total points, because you have now a better score in the same cpu-z benchmark with the same cpu model. PS: More or less what George said

I have one dead mosfet on mine. Can be replaced. Hopefuuly you have your cpus alive.

Wow, this is beautiful! Excellent score, guys.

Lol, why do you think it's not on air? You can reach the same clock with the stock intel box cooler.

Well, that's the AMD "optimization", I guess Most important is the chip - B-die. Both kits I have (old 3600C17 and 3733C17) work without a problem on Ryzen. I even tested for stability 4x8GB at 3200 14-14-14-34 1T (trying to mimic that G.Skill screenshot from some time ago) at 1.35V. Also managed 3800+ at C12 bench "stable". But I guess it is good for people who just plug and play. It will offer a little better performance compared to 2133 JEDEC. And, this FlareX doesn't seem too bad, considering many recent high bins fail on the same test. It could be much worse, plus voltage tolerance is higher than expected.

0082 is the best so far for me. Mem could not go so high before. Also don't see the Win10 bugs, everything seems fine in terms of scores.

Setting maxmem is the way all top guys use to bench at these insane frequencies under x64 OS.

Use the tool "EZ Installer" provided on Asus page: https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-MAXIMUS-IX-APEX/HelpDesk_Download/

Yes, I've noticed mega now wants to make account and pay when the quota is exceeded or wait several hours until the download is unblocked again. This SP1 image is rather old though and does not include updates, but I didn't want to get a custom image as a base, you never know what is inside, plus I guess it is illegal. That's why I've opted for the official MSDN SP1 image, no cracks, hacks, activation, etc. It would be better to provide a simple guide how to integrate drivers, although there are tools for this already - e.g. on Asus site. Asrock might have one as well. But I will find some time to write a guide for NTLite, because you might want to integrate some extra stuff. This image was just to get things going for people who have no clue and/or time what is required and haven't researched on the topic.

This is the default multi of that chip. Nothing unlocked.

Thanks, elmor. 3600 is now super easy.

Collection of bioses: Index of /AMD_k7 There you have the Mantarays, but I really only use my own bioses. I was using one of the latest Merlin's bioses (one of TaiPan ones) before that, never really liked the Mantarays XT. My old link to ClassicPlatforms' bios archive is not working anymore, not sure if not hidden already. Perhaps Scotty could help.

I've shared it long time ago, but here it is again: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0ByfNThxT1gbTaTFYTUg1a3p6VFk?usp=sharing 1T rev.2 and 2T rev.1. As a bonus, bioses for AN7 too: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0ByfNThxT1gbTVFR5R3RrVXNRRFE?usp=sharing

4x8GB TridentZ at 3200C14 pretty stable. One set is 3733C17, other one is 3600C17. Can't go over 3300, maybe the limit of my IMC or hitting the mem hole. 3200 divider doesn't POST at CAS lower than 18 (or 17 set in bios, which is rounded to next even number). 2666 divider is fine with lower CAS, despite tighter subtimings. Haven't tried lower VDIMM, might run just fine. Memtest 100% Blend custom, just 30min, don't want to torture this cpu a lot, since I have only one and plan to bench it on LN2 Aida

Have you tried the "portable" version from the beginning and DMI disabled + XOC enabled? I never install it, always use the one from provided zip. PS: I see you got 1.78.1 working, should be fine to use. 1.78.3 really is strange even on AM2 cpu/boards on XP, just look at the div VII submissions.

The truth is almost noone cares about Catzilla. The only thing that might be of an interest to someone is the global points. If there were no global points or competitions requiring that buggy bench, noone would run it. I regret buying a license... It's a "loading time" bench, not 3D.

Can we all test at 4GHz or 5GHz, please. There's more to be optimized. I've tried Win7 x86, but it appears to be slower for me, but might try a diff version later. Just for a start

It was refreshing to participate in a competition again after such a long time due to various reasons. Still searching for that golden AM2 Windsor F3. My 6000+ needs -45 for this CPU speed, which means low HTRef and RAM frequency and that hurts 32M. Got to work on that HD3870 late night yesterday, mod it, then fight with water leaking out of the CPU block, numerous driver re-installs, etc. But that card is really good and saved my @ss. Tight competition, just 0.3pts between #1 and #2 place . Good scores all around.

Thanks, shared at a local forum, too.

Not going to buy anything this time, although temptation is strong Have 100% positive experience dealing with Michael, all pretested mems I've purchased from him do at least what is advertised, but most of the time even more.