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    HWBOT 3DMARK LEGACIES RULES DISCUSSION THREAD

    in Benchmark Rules

    Posted

    9 hours ago, Leeghoofd said:

    Well the benchmark runs, but the perf is a bit off versus older systeminfo's,...

    Rules will always adapt to whatever it is needed to make is as simple and secure possible. It's impossible to make rules that serve all platforms without having a side effect on something. They are as simplified as possible now, taking into account security and validity on UL. If we have to exclude Socket939, it will be tomorrow the AGP guys that have an issue somewhere.  It will never be suitable for everybody Scotty

    Anyway if you guys want to host a old school compo you can set CPUZ and GPUz, Systeminfo stuff yourselves in the competition rules.

     

    It's not only socket 939 (that was just an example) ... it's almost all prior to 775 (and agp's included)

    Not a good idea to set a specific systeminfo version for a competition , you loose the performance advantage.

    Not all old school members know , which is the best systeminfo version for each bench and each platform (myself included).

    9 hours ago, Mr.Scott said:

    I know Alby, I realize the old school folks will have to make adaptions. You're right though, we can always set our own rules for comps.

     

    ok , 2 years after the competition ends

    Some user starts reporting all the competition subs for not using the correct systeminfo version.

    More work for the moderators ? should a moderator remember after years what a specific old school competition was using for systeminfo ?

     

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    For the above reasons , i ask (if possible) to make a mention in current rules about legacy platforms.

    You can clearly see , that it has nothing to do with points. (scores are very low on legacy).

     

     

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    HWBOT 3DMARK LEGACIES RULES DISCUSSION THREAD

    in Benchmark Rules

    Posted

    55 minutes ago, Leeghoofd said:

    If its PCIe and DDR4 I think there's plenty of subplatform power to make up for the point loss.

    Now for  05-06 a link is required only for Global top 20 (There's no mention of  Systeminfo for the older legacies)

    Only for Vantage and 11 we require a link and an updated Systeminfo, is that a problem?

    I am talking about legacy platforms. (max ddr2)

    For example 3DM Vantage on socket939 scores lower with modern systeminfo versions (cause of lower cpu scores)

    We need a special mention about older platforms.

     

     

    Do you think in house benchers should be points disabled only?

    in HWBOT Development: bugs, features and suggestions

    Posted

    Well ... it's a tough situation.

    In house benchers must be awarded , because they work hard for their top results and of cource they are very skilled .

    But at the end of the day , a common extreme user will never have the same chances to achieve top numbers.

    Binned hardware and special software , will always give that extra boost to the "insiders".

    Skills alone will never be enough ... you need the means (materials) too.

     

     

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    The future of HWBOT

    in HWBOT News

    Posted

    On 3/23/2020 at 10:29 PM, der8auer said:

    Hey there :)

    ........

    Things we will do:

    • Keep the page almost (for changes see down below) the way it is
    • Try to pay the core stuff or at least give compensation for hardware/LN2 (details will be discussed)
    • Cooperation with Benchmate. It looks like a great software to us and makes it easy to validate scores. If it improves things we don't see why we should not cooperate with mat. I already spent few hours with him on the phone to discuss how we can make it as smooth as possible. We have the same opinion and goals and will try to find the best solution for the community
    • HWBOT will stay free to use
    • We have a coder who also did some stuff for Thermal Grizzly previously and he will spend about 1-2 working days per week on improving HWBOT. We plan to fix bugs which occur and improve some functions (admin panel for moderation for example)

     

    There are few things I want to change such as going back to reward all submissions with points so newcomers have more motivation. We might also change to a scheduled recalculation every 6-12h instead of instant recalculations to further reduce server load and costs. 

    Otherwise we don't plan to have major changes.

    We just want to keep this website alive because it can really be an awesome place.

    If you have any concerns, ideas or whatever don't hesitat to ask or post. But I will ask you to act like adults. I'm not sure how Massman could deal with the insults of some over the years....

    Thanks and stay safe!

    Roman

     

     

    Roman

    It's time to take action.

    Too many problems occured the last couple of months.

    You must show signs of life.

    Regular Hwbot Users , see only ONE person running like a rabbit from one place to an other , trying to do everything in his power (that's Alby) @Leeghoofd

     

    @der8auer

    Ask others for help , if it is something that you cant handle by your own.

    We need to keep this place alive.

     

     

     

     

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    [WTB] [EU] A lot of stuff

    in Sold

    Posted

    If it's collection items you are looking for (boxed or rare items).

    I might have some for sale , mainly from my MSI collection of Hawks and Lightnings.

    If you are looking for bench hardware (insulated,vmodded ...) then not me.

     

     

    The official HWBot Team Cup 2020 Unigine basic thread.

    in HWBOT Competitions

    Posted

    9 hours ago, Mr.Scott said:

    No dude, I know how to run the bench.

    As stated, my 3850 AGP runs it fine.

     

    If somebody else can verify the Nv situation,  that would be great. Don't wait too long though.

    Here is the minimum requirements according to Unigine.

     

     
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    Just by looking at the database it seems that the Nvidia are no go.

    But the min. requirements may be different.

    I see 256MB vga's also... and ATI/AMD 1xxx , 2xxx and 3xxx series.
     

    9 hours ago, Mr.Scott said:
    HARDWARE
    • GPU:
      • ATI Radeon HD 4xxx and higher
      • Intel HD 3000 and higher
      • NVIDIA GeForce 8xxx and higher
    • Video memory: 512 MB
    • Disk space: 1 GB
    1 hour ago, Leeghoofd said:

    K we go for another bench for this stage. 

    Just switch to ATI-AMD ?

     

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    A7N8X-E Deluxe as an alternative for socket 462

    in Mainboards

    Posted

    On 7/26/2020 at 1:02 PM, digitalbath said:

    I modded your BIOS for the EPOX 8RDA3I. Before flashing, please make sure, that CMOS register 73-78 are free. You can check it with this program. It should look something like this (in this screen CMOS register 73-78 are used by my mod):

     

    Some things left to say:

    • the FSB Frequency is limited in the BIOS by 250MHz.
    • 256KB BIOS!
    • BPL is 3.09 by default, I left it in the original version. I do not own good BPL Versions for 256kb BIOSes.
    • This BIOS versions should work, but they are completely untested! I will not be responsible for any damages! Having a programmed backup bios chip before flashing is not a bad idea.

     

     

    8RDA3I_EBED_A6.zip 385.63 kB · 3 downloads 8RDA3I_ED_A6.zip 385.73 kB · 2 downlds 8RDA3I_X1_A6.zip 385.56 kB · 3 downloads

    I flashed the EBED version , on my version 2.0 , 8RDA3I

    Everything worked smoothly , and the board bios booted and memtested up to 240 with 2x512MB and 245 with 2x256MB

    I will further test , when i have more free time.

    Thank you.

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    A7N8X-E Deluxe as an alternative for socket 462

    in Mainboards

    Posted

    6 hours ago, digitalbath said:

    I modded your BIOS for the EPOX 8RDA3I. Before flashing, please make sure, that CMOS register 73-78 are free. You can check it with this program. It should look something like this (in this screen CMOS register 73-78 are used by my mod):

    image.thumb.jpeg.bb43acaf9839eece00ef74681f842069.jpeg

    Some things left to say:

    • the FSB Frequency is limited in the BIOS by 250MHz.
    • 256KB BIOS!
    • BPL is 3.09 by default, I left it in the original version. I do not own good BPL Versions for 256kb BIOSes.
    • This BIOS versions should work, but they are completely untested! I will not be responsible for any damages! Having a programmed backup bios chip before flashing is not a bad idea.

     

     

    8RDA3I_EBED_A6.zip 385.63 kB · 1 download 8RDA3I_ED_A6.zip 385.73 kB · 1 download 8RDA3I_X1_A6.zip 385.56 kB · 1 download

    Thank you

    I will test your bios next weekend.

    Yes i already have a pre-programmed backup bios chip for this board.

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    A7N8X-E Deluxe as an alternative for socket 462

    in Mainboards

    Posted

    20 hours ago, Sparks.nl said:

    By accident I found 2 GEIL 1 GB dimms which do C2-2-2-5 1T @420MHz and 3v (never tried lowering the voltage). 
     

    I never knew this was possible. Let alone on Socket A with it’s limited memory controller when looking at NF4. 
    They have a Brainpower pcb as well. 
     

    A6D524D6-6B50-4D4C-8936-E1832E99B92A.jpeg

    453C0974-6F81-4063-819F-5D52440DDF85.jpeg
    When looking at the bottom they are not Winbond. Is this Elixer? 

    Hynix D43

     

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