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You uploaded in wrong category, your result is maxmem read bandwidth^^
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RipjawZ are sold privately, please close and move - thanks for the space, Hwbot
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The official ASUS ROG CAMP 2015 Qualifier thread.
websmile replied to MihaiMacarie's topic in HWBOT Competitions
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Sure, Roman, and when ocuk sells 40 chips alone advertised at 1,275v 5ghz win7 and 6,4ghz 01 handbinned by overclocker you say ^^^this - bs², I wonder when you last binned for a cpu of modern architecure if you don´t know how much cpus you have to bin to get this and take in on top that best samples are not sold but used for benching... obviously it is ok to ignore reality when you are in a certain position, sad story^^
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I can live with this decision, it was time to make it clear though what is motivation to this, tbh I don´t think this discussion will be over though, it will come back in the future if amount of inhouse clockers at shops or distributors keeps on rising- about unlimited access, when you can bin hundreds of i7s for example because shop you work for offers tray and especially offers pretested overclocked rigs, how would you call this? Small amount you can easily bin privately?
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So you want to state that there are lots of people who get pretested retail cpus in bunnyextraction masses from vendors and don´t work for vendors or manufacturers or distributors? That´s indeed new to me and matches no ocer I talked to, on vgas I know that samples are sent out that are often much better than retails. And I did not talk about early unlimited access at distributors, I talked about employees, which is different from support, with unlimited access for example to cpus - I think this is a difference, and for me it leaves a bad taste for example when people who pay for their binning or have to make stunts for it have to compete with people with unlimited cpu access at a competition. If you are full time employee in hardware business I see no difference if you work a inhouse clocker for asus or alternate
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Agreed, there will always be differences in access to hardware and ressources, this is no problem but a fact, what you can try is to lower the impact it makes on perception and you can also try to diminish impact on some of the rankings and competitions. The way to do so is difficult, I agree, and the limit between employee and excess support is floating and hard to define. Nontheless there have to be made decisions now and in the future about this and I wish a lot of luck and wisdom to the staff to do this. But the question I had was not answered, why are employees of vendors out and employees of distributors with better retail access accepted at comps. It is a bit weird for me if I see this and only judge it by hardware access, of course I am aware of the advantages you can have if you get special bios or prebinned vga by vendor. Well, we will see...
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Wow, Sam, despite having most hardware points you do not lead in one single category - time to restart binning
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If I find a buyer for the second pair I would not mind to split the kit, the sticks are even so I would send them out with followup serialnumber. Maybe someone else drops in and grabs second pair, but before that I will not split - and around 8 euros shipping would come on top for each buyer Edit Sale of the ripjawZ suspended, I offer them on a different platform now
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Pieter, when you mention competitions here, I have a question. How do we justify the fact that on hwbot organized comps employees of hardware vendors and manufacturers are ruled out, which mostly have access to ES anyway, which is ruled out, but that employees of distributors who can bin hundreds of retail cpus for free as well as they have early unlimited access to all hardware including expensive vgas and so on can participate? It does not touch me directly as you know, but when we talk about justice and logic in rules like discussed here on the ES matter, I would be interested to hear your opinion on this as well
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To make a long story short - the 4670K will not work at 2400+ with bbse or psc on OCF, no matter which Bios or cooler I use, the problem can´t be solved, so that´s life. I rechecked on other boards, there it works, and with other cpus the asrock flies with psc so I assume it to be problem with contacts of the 4670K which seem to be a bit worn out, and therefore one channel is weak - definitely no problem of the board itself which works flawless
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Two last tests on different sticks, all do around the same
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Will be too tight, I can´t promise this and think it will take 5-7 days
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I ship to Italy, DHL would be 15 Euros, within EU they offer quite acceptable rates
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Dirt can be a problem indeed, but I clean my mems regularly for years now, and on a new board I don´t expect dirt in slots^^ - wouldn´t explain anyway why the problem occurs only on one cpu and two others not. I fear the cpu contacts are not in best shape on 4670K, and the problem comes because of this, anyway new bios might help, but in case it is mechanical problem I will have to live with it
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good everning
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Thanks a lot, Bull - will give it a try
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I only tried the two official version 110 and 130, do you have a fast link for the betas? At Asrock can´t find them and google brought me an uncertain 1,12 version only - might be worth trying a beta especially with my 4670k fail
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Got the 4770K, inserted and used some random Ripjaws I bought by mistake, 2600 first try boot and 32m - obviously the problem is caused by compability of my i5 and the board, which works fine as the 4670K does on other board - weird, but at least the OCF is fine, and I guess I will have to use Sams with the old wrecked 4670K on it
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The mems do more than 2800c9 32M SuperPi, so 2800c9 should be easy for XTU - no idea if IMC can handle 4 sticks though, this depends on settings and CPU, but the memory can do it for sure