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at 1,22v 5ghz I would still dance with joy

4,5ghz SuperPi32M 1,22v is simply not good - this chip will not do 5ghz at xp below 1,45v imho

4770K 3350Bxxx 1,04vid, 4,5ghz 1,22v 32m spi and wprime - bad

So let me make this clear - after last changes over the years the 3d legacy benchmarks are last chance to get any wr points with using enthusiast class cpu like 1155 or 1150 i7, and to level chances for poor 2011 ocers, we strip these of wr points as well? Sounds like a fair deal seeing that crap like hwbotprime, both cinebenches and wprime, on which you have no chance to get wrs with 1150 for example, are only 2ds that get wr points and on 3d, you have only small chances to get wr without 2011 maybe at uh or catzilla if you are fast and others don´t bother.

The competition issue is strong - I am not in position to comment on this, but think a solution for this that suits all needs would be make dealing with other questions more easy

I know the problems on multi gpu and see the effort done - but I don´t agree on your evaluation and facit of 4770k for example, sure you have to bin, but you can at least do this and have a chance to find what you search for, on 5960x you would have much bigger financial effort and on cards as well, and I say "would" because in reality you have no realistic chance to get lots of 980GTX or 5960X retail that is able to beat vendors samples if you bin privately- so ranking will be even more what it is now, closed circle of inhouse or shop-benchers, and no chance to come even close with whatever effort even semi-sponsored guys give. It simply results in money game and no chance at all anymore if you don´t get tons of handpicked Intel/Asus/Galax etc samples. Not sure we will find a way to agree on this topic, our views are from very different angles, and both have points that speak in favour of them

I am not sure it makes sense to keep all legacy 3Ds available for wr points, that´s true, but on the other hand things move into big money direction already, for 4x fse and other newer benchmarks you need handpicked vendor samples because retails won´t beat these (don´t tell me it´s wrong, even sponsored guys with these samples say this) and a handpicked 1k cpu plus board and 2011 system - so we generally talk about moving things even more away from non inhouse benchers in favour of fully sponsored guys. And Roman, which effort? The true fact that you need more cards to level on cold at right temp, which is hard, financial effort if you pay the bill yourself and get retails that will not give you wr or tweaking effort? One or two might be right... I know that power benchers with unlimited ressources hate old 3ds, they take away their material advantage, that´s why I like them^^

You would get a good board, especially very strong on multi-core 2D and on 3 benchmarks

Agree 100% on Bullants statement, I see some of the arguments Sam gave are true, but the fact that the older benchmarks are more or less only stuff left that good tweaking can make a difference and not only pure power makes me think globals and wr points should stay at least for majority of these

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Morning, sales-time 1. Gigabyte Z97X SOC Force boxed Retail, used only for a couple of tests, mint condition including complete unused accesories. I flashed the X04 Bios on chip one, second one should have F6 which with I received the board 2. 3x2GB OCZ Blade PC-16000 9-9-9-30 Kit works flawless, tested with memtest86 and spi for specs and 2400 8-11-8-27 on socforce, I searched Hyper but these are other Elpidas or PSC. Need much voltage above 2400 on air, so I let them go as I have too much hardware anyway. With original Blister and box 3. Thermaltight True Spirit 120 BW Like new, was only unpacked but never used Prices excluding shipping which will come on top 1. 125 Euros sold for 120 incl. shipping in germany to Bullshooter, paid and shipped 2. 50 Euros 3. 20 Euros I am from Berlin, germany, shipping for the board will be around 15-20 Euros within EU, the mems I can ship for around 8 euros worldwide, on the cooler I would prefer to sell it with the board as I see overproportional shipping cost as this would be 9 euros within eu. No returns accepted, and no warranty provided by me as seller because this is a private sale. If oc is mentioned, take this as a landmark because results can vary a lot with hardware and user

Can get closed and noved, new thread is coming - thx for the space, hwbot

sieht so aus als wenn service pack 1 fehlt - ansonsten ist der score schwer zu erklären

Last bump for this oold thread^^

My old mems - good job

Very good tweaked run, great efficiency

I have just my random Corsair left, but might try these in near time, on Z87 OCM they ran 1200 c8 around 1,73v iirc 32m stable, no idea if they can do same on GA - lots of Hypers fight with tight tertiaries and rtls on new systems and high frequency can have same effect, at the moment I tested some multi core benches on the board, it does quite good

Well done

Good evening

Nicht schlecht, Boris^^

#4 sold to Alex@ro @asmodee replied Edit #1 4690K sold to asmodee, payment received

Hola, I am cutting down hardware again, if you have questions on one of the items that is not answered in description, shoot me a pm 1. Intel Core 15-4690K boxed Very good sample, boxed retail. 1,29v 5ghz wprime and SuperPi 32m XP, 4,5ghz 1,09v cinebenches and XTU win7x64, VID 0,992v on Impact7 and Asrock Z87. Not delidded, polished or used on cold, acceptable IMC that ran 2750 8-12-8-28 with psc for example. In box with fan. 2. 3x2GB OCZ Blade DDR3-2000 CL9-9-9-30 The sticks work flawless, tested with memtest and superpi on specs, I hoped for Hypers to confirm my results on Gigabyte Z97 but these are other Elpida or PSC. In original packaging which might raise shipping price a bit. 3. Thermalright True Spirit 120M BW Never used, was bought for a build that did not become reality, unpacked, checked, with full accessory. 4. Gainward 9600GT 512M Works, checked for 1300 mem AM3 and at least 1265 nature 01, non modded, bulk 5. PNY Geforce 9800GTX+ 512MB Works, non modded, iirc card did around 850/1200 air 03, check my outdated hwbot profile to get more info 6. Asus ATI 2900XT 512MB With thermalright cooler, I checked the card and it does work in 2d, but when it moves to 3d, vrms get extremely hot at once and benches crash. Might be defect, Bios or not sufficient cooling of vrms, I simply didn´t bother to fight with big fan on the card Prices without shipping 1. 255 Euros/ 295 US-Dollars sold, shipped 2. 50 Euros/ 60 US-Dollars 3. 20 Euros/ 25 US-dollars 4. 20 Euros/ 25 US-Dollars sold, paid 5. 30 Euros/ 35 US-Dollars 6. 15 Euros/ 20 US-Dollars Items are located at germany, please ask for shipping rates especially with vgas, payment is possible with western union or paypal No returns and no warranty because I offer this being a private person selling used stuff. On oc, ymmv, but all results mentioned are on air cooling.

Sounds as if you use AMD-like cpu on socket 1150 - you still have two threads more than me