FireKillerGR Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I think spi 32m lcc is a bad call... LCC without any safety measurements in a competition like AOOC can create "problems". I would say remove XTU and stage 1 completely or replace it with XTU Full Out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancop Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Xtu full out when you can do 2064 with 5ghz??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraRaptor Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 The best I did with this setup is 1314 so far - just a slightly tweaked win7. 1350 is too much for the clocks/timings anyway. And it could be 1340, which is worse for cheat identification... Now you know, the tweak works as it should and gives some boost but benchmark itself can't handle this most of the times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireKillerGR Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Yeah but at least XTU has some safety measurements like freq analysis, freq report, etc. Imagine running spi 32m @5 Ghz locked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose83 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I allways say xtu is bugged 32m please for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Let's stay with the other two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der8auer Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Guys first we will try to find a solution for this issue. Â I already have an idea what causes this and also an idea how to verify it. I will do some testing straight tomorrow and tell you if it works or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 Is it just me, or is it really easy to detect TR's bugged runs? In all of the bugged ones, the "maximum CPU frequency" exceeds the allowed frequency. And of course it's not possible to tell the frequency if the monitoring is disabled. Â Just check the Maximum CPU Frequency and the monitoring line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme Addict Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Pieter mine run is 5 GHz straight from bios... no tweaks, no changing settings in OS, just boot to OS open XTU and run. Â Â and I have 5.11, others seem to have similar. So you theory seems to be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew stummerwinter Posted August 23, 2014 Crew Share Posted August 23, 2014 Boot with 44x102 into OS an set to 49... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der8auer Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Alright guys, the tweak is actually easy to detect. Â First let's take a look at XAs result which is valid. I marked the mandatory and important validation details. This stuff has to be visible! Otherwise your result might be considered as invalid. Â Â Maximum Processor Frequency is 5.11 GHz. All monitoring data on the right is correct and visible (Max turbo Boost freq ~5.0 GHz). Â The monitoring data is fully visible on the right with also 5.11 GHz core and ~5.0 GHz cache. The monitoring line on the left is also fully visible and the CPU Frequency is a straight line without peaks. Â Â Lets take a look at example screenshot #1 which would be invalid: Â Monitoring details are not available and also system details on the right are missing. Â Example #2 with applied "tweak" Â Â The Maximum Processor Frequency is out of line with 5.32 GHz (Maximum allowed is 5.11). Take a look at the Processor frequency line which has two peaks (bumps from 5.0 to 5.3 GHz) which cause the wrong result. Also the details on the right are not visible. This is invalid aswell. Â So the tweak is very easy to spot and we can just continue here. Â However: - Your result has to show the correct Maximum Processor Frequency - Details on the right have to be visible - Monitoring data has to be fully visible and a straight line without peaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme Addict Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 That looks easy to check, good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew stummerwinter Posted August 23, 2014 Crew Share Posted August 23, 2014 Please have a look on my screen... Â Max CPU is 0... Â And the line is not straight, belive me or not, frequency was NOT changed, can show a video as prove... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strat Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Seems ok! Good work Roman!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der8auer Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Please have a look on my screen... Max CPU is 0...  And the line is not straight, belive me or not, frequency was NOT changed, can show a video as prove...  Your line is almost straight which is okays. No bumps visible. However Max CPU 0 is strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perica_barii Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 So after this we will apply that screen for all XTU submissions must be mandatory ( not talking about competition only) I mean all xtu submission should have screen visible as you showed us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der8auer Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Yes, we are discussing this internally at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew stummerwinter Posted August 23, 2014 Crew Share Posted August 23, 2014 Your line is almost straight which is okays. No bumps visible. However Max CPU 0 is strange. Â Or I have "fantasy" values: http://hwbot.org/submission/2607714 Â Maybe caused by disabled service... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der8auer Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Yea you and Dancop seem to have this issue with the strange values. I think it's a windows related issue or due to disabled services. Can't be hardware since other guys also use the Maximus VII Formula with the same BIOS version and it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giorgioprimo Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Yea you and Dancop seem to have this issue with the strange values. I think it's a windows related issue or due to disabled services. Can't be hardware since other guys also use the Maximus VII Formula with the same BIOS version and it works. Â Check my submission for AOOC.....I have strange value as well ...with gene... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew stummerwinter Posted August 23, 2014 Crew Share Posted August 23, 2014 Check my submission for AOOC.....I have strange value as well ...with gene... Â Good... Â Or maybe not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der8auer Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Okay so the question is how we can get rid of the 0 GHz and 42424125125 GHZ results. Let me know if you have any idea what causes this. At my setup everything works fine so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giorgioprimo Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Okay so the question is how we can get rid of the 0 GHz and 42424125125 GHZ results. Let me know if you have any idea what causes this. At my setup everything works fine so far. Â could be related in using a beta-bios ? (just guessing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew stummerwinter Posted August 23, 2014 Crew Share Posted August 23, 2014 Not me, official bios for M7F... Â Guess service, but need to try... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancop Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I have all mandatory things except max cpu freq! The straight line ist there! I tried my system on air and water again and again and I always get 0 ghz or fantasy figures! How...if it is mandatory, can I change it? On my 1335 score, I simply bootet and ran xtu. I did nothing else! No affinity, no service shut downs...nothing! So...if it is a duty, tell me how to change it to the right figures?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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