Crew Leeghoofd Posted October 26, 2014 Crew Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) I would also vote for one submission per member... bit weird that you can resubmit the same score over and over again... think there are some lessons learned for this type of competition... I would have loved to see it another format, post the background with target score. From that moment the OCers have 12 hours to post the best or matching score... Anyway at the next OC event drinks are on Christian and Marine :woot: Fun competition Gigabyte, no high end hardware needed. It takes some time and patience to get there Edited October 26, 2014 by Leeghoofd Quote
SoF Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 Drinks? They better pay my flight to computex 2015! He will just pass out while drinking and not sure how much Marine can handle Quote
sofos1990 Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 Anyone has to propose a better competition idea? Feel free to do it in public. A competition can't satisfy us all. See the bright side. This competition will have 10 different winners. Quote
SoF Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 We all said already what is wrong here - the major idea is so good it hurts to see it ruined by these kind of loopholes...do you followed this every sunday? Quote
Crew Leeghoofd Posted October 26, 2014 Crew Posted October 26, 2014 Indeed a good point mista Sofos... and like stated before thanks to Gigabyte and HWBOT for hosting it Quote
TASOS Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 2659163 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:00 MarineOC 2659164 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:02 fanta1ty 2659165 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:02 joe90br 2659166 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:02 MarineOC 2659167 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:03 MarineOC 2659168 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:03 QuantumX 2659169 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:04 etoile 2659170 2967.450 2014-10-26 06:00:04 VVojtas 2659171 2967.450 2014-10-26 06:00:05 Doc.Brown 2659172 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:05 MarineOC 2659173 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:06 MarineOC 2659174 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:07 DARK lord 2659175 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:09 MarineOC 2659176 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:10 MaJ0r 2659177 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:14 MarineOC 2659178 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:14 MarineOC 2659179 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:15 MarineOC 2659180 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:15 MaJ0r 2659181 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:14 MaJ0r 2659182 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:15 MarineOC 2659183 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:15 MarineOC 2659184 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:15 smrbh 2659185 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:15 QuantumX 2659186 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:15 DARK lord 2659187 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:15 MarineOC 2659188 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:15 MarineOC 2659189 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:15 MarineOC 2659190 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:15 varand 2659191 2967.450 2014-10-26 06:00:15 Pawelox 2659192 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:15 Gumanoid 2659193 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:16 MaJ0r 2659194 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:16 MaJ0r 2659195 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:16 pho5ph0ric 2659196 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:18 adiath 2659198 2967.450 2014-10-26 06:00:20 Johni5 2659199 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:20 MarineOC 2659200 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:21 ChentinoX 2659201 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:22 MarineOC 2659202 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:22 MaJ0r 2659203 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:22 daimons 2659204 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:29 MarineOC 2659205 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:30 MarineOC 2659206 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:31 MarineOC 2659207 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:42 MarineOC 2659208 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:47 ChentinoX 2659209 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:47 MarineOC 2659210 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:49 MarineOC 2659211 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:52 MarineOC 2659212 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:01:13 Crabby 2659213 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:01:17 FatBoyNotSoSlim 2659214 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:01:17 nDk 2659215 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:01:23 topdog 2659218 2967.450 2014-10-26 06:02:24 nighthawk 2659220 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:02:28 Nikola27 2659221 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:02:58 kilobravo 2659222 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:03:34 rtsurfer 2659223 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:04:00 Darkvenom 2659224 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:04:50 CHRIS_666 2659228 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:14:49 Nicoklo 2659229 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:16:07 MetallicGR 2659230 2967.510 2014-10-26 06:16:18 johnuahuang 2659231 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:17:18 Dboodagh 2659232 2967.210 2014-10-26 06:18:18 fgi 2659233 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:18:55 viper-rd 2659235 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:20:21 noliso 2659237 2967.510 2014-10-26 06:21:29 skulstation 2659239 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:23:02 I.nfraR.ed 2659241 2967.510 2014-10-26 06:27:08 OLDcomer 2659243 2967.450 2014-10-26 06:30:01 overnightstone 2659250 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:51:38 SoF 2659252 2967.050 2014-10-26 06:57:19 mihaim1980 2659253 2967.550 2014-10-26 07:07:08 leeghoofd 2659254 2967.420 2014-10-26 07:07:09 A. Coppens 2659256 2967.450 2014-10-26 07:10:54 Stoff 2659257 2967.550 2014-10-26 07:11:14 Bullshooter 2659260 2967.550 2014-10-26 07:25:07 Moonman 2659264 2967.510 2014-10-26 07:30:14 Paulie_AU 2659266 2967.510 2014-10-26 07:34:18 junior-21- 2659276 2966.950 2014-10-26 07:51:23 GunGod Just for the history Can you show us the entries of about 30sec before the deadline time ? Can you show us even the deleted entries ? Quote
TASOS Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 I would also vote for one submission per member... bit weird that you can resubmit the same score over and over again... think there are some lessons learned for this type of competition... That's a good point. Quote
Massman Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 I can only see the failed submissions in the server logs, which I can't access right now. The deleted entries should be in that list too. Quote
QuantumX Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 Indeed a good point mista Sofos... and like stated before thanks to Gigabyte and HWBOT for hosting it I agree. Thanks to Gigabyte and HWBot for hosting this. 400$ prize money is really a lot considering how easy it is to get the target scores. And the lucky draw also has some great prizes which I hope I win one of Maybe next time we can reveal the comp. background at the start of the stage and have a 2 hour time for people to achieve the target score. You wouldn't need more time than that as you can do pre-testing beforehand and get your frequencies right. Or match the score four days before the stage starts, keep the computer on for four days with result on screen, apply the background once it's available, take the screenshot and submit haha Quote
SoF Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 We all learn and maybe the rest of the field agrees not to hammer the server - if your name is listed more than twice within TOP10 submissions next sunday...u no cool Quote
MaJ0r Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 2659163 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:00 MarineOC 2659164 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:02 fanta1ty 2659165 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:02 joe90br 2659166 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:02 MarineOC 2659167 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:03 MarineOC 2659168 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:03 QuantumX 2659169 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:04 etoile 2659170 2967.450 2014-10-26 06:00:04 VVojtas 2659171 2967.450 2014-10-26 06:00:05 Doc.Brown 2659172 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:05 MarineOC 2659173 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:06 MarineOC 2659174 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:07 DARK lord 2659175 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:09 MarineOC 2659176 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:10 MaJ0r 2659177 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:14 MarineOC 2659178 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:14 MarineOC 2659179 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:15 MarineOC 2659180 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:15 MaJ0r 2659181 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:14 MaJ0r 2659182 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:15 MarineOC 2659183 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:15 MarineOC 2659184 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:15 smrbh 2659185 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:15 QuantumX 2659186 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:15 DARK lord 2659187 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:15 MarineOC 2659188 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:15 MarineOC 2659189 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:15 MarineOC 2659190 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:15 varand 2659191 2967.450 2014-10-26 06:00:15 Pawelox 2659192 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:15 Gumanoid 2659193 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:16 MaJ0r 2659194 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:16 MaJ0r 2659195 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:16 pho5ph0ric 2659196 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:18 adiath 2659198 2967.450 2014-10-26 06:00:20 Johni5 2659199 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:20 MarineOC 2659200 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:21 ChentinoX 2659201 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:22 MarineOC 2659202 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:22 MaJ0r 2659203 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:22 daimons 2659204 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:29 MarineOC 2659205 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:30 MarineOC 2659206 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:31 MarineOC 2659207 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:42 MarineOC 2659208 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:47 ChentinoX 2659209 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:47 MarineOC 2659210 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:49 MarineOC 2659211 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:00:52 MarineOC 2659212 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:01:13 Crabby 2659213 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:01:17 FatBoyNotSoSlim 2659214 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:01:17 nDk 2659215 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:01:23 topdog 2659218 2967.450 2014-10-26 06:02:24 nighthawk 2659220 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:02:28 Nikola27 2659221 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:02:58 kilobravo 2659222 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:03:34 rtsurfer 2659223 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:04:00 Darkvenom 2659224 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:04:50 CHRIS_666 2659228 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:14:49 Nicoklo 2659229 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:16:07 MetallicGR 2659230 2967.510 2014-10-26 06:16:18 johnuahuang 2659231 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:17:18 Dboodagh 2659232 2967.210 2014-10-26 06:18:18 fgi 2659233 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:18:55 viper-rd 2659235 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:20:21 noliso 2659237 2967.510 2014-10-26 06:21:29 skulstation 2659239 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:23:02 I.nfraR.ed 2659241 2967.510 2014-10-26 06:27:08 OLDcomer 2659243 2967.450 2014-10-26 06:30:01 overnightstone 2659250 2967.550 2014-10-26 06:51:38 SoF 2659252 2967.050 2014-10-26 06:57:19 mihaim1980 2659253 2967.550 2014-10-26 07:07:08 leeghoofd 2659254 2967.420 2014-10-26 07:07:09 A. Coppens 2659256 2967.450 2014-10-26 07:10:54 Stoff 2659257 2967.550 2014-10-26 07:11:14 Bullshooter 2659260 2967.550 2014-10-26 07:25:07 Moonman 2659264 2967.510 2014-10-26 07:30:14 Paulie_AU 2659266 2967.510 2014-10-26 07:34:18 junior-21- 2659276 2966.950 2014-10-26 07:51:23 GunGod Lol, I've started submitting 12 seconds before time, and first two or so were too fast(earlier that it was necessary) after that was some server lag and my first submission in time was 10 seconds late. That's weird. Quote
Crew Leeghoofd Posted October 26, 2014 Crew Posted October 26, 2014 You have been lagged by the Swiss OC mafia Major Quote
MaJ0r Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 You have been lagged by the Swiss OC mafia Major Seems I've been lagged by my own Quote
Massman Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Lol, I've started submitting 12 seconds before time, and first two or so were too fast(earlier that it was necessary) after that was some server lag and my first submission in time was 10 seconds late. That's weird. Our server back-end isn't too great with multiple requests from a single connection. Submitting multiple scores at the same time from the same PC/connection may indeed cause a delay. Quote
adiath Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 this has nothing to do with "fair play"...this is plain stupid result hammering...not a worthy winner! fantal1ty nailed it with one submission - that's how it should be! well done! as you can see in the list above it currently seems that result-hammering is allowed and even welcomed. In Stage 2 the winner submitted I think at least 15-20 results the minute BEFORE the competition is open - due to a lag and other requests you block the result-ids and therefore hopefully end up in front of the "honest" participants only using one score and sending it right in the second the competition starts. I questioned that already in stage one and kindly asked if we change the rules to "one target, one submission" but looks like some ppl. wanted to keep their advantage and bend the entire competition... Agree.. I think this competition is great because have unique idea and anyone can participate without high spec hardware. But i feel there something wrong with the implementations of this competition. Someone that know about hwbot system, server lag, weakness of system, will win. I agree with rules about "one person, one submission". After this time that show us there are something wrong, maybe most of us not interested to this competitions anymore. Thanks, Sorry for my bad english, lol Quote
Crew stummerwinter Posted October 27, 2014 Crew Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) Anyone has to propose a better competition idea? Feel free to do it in public. A competition can't satisfy us all. See the bright side. This competition will have 10 different winners. Easy... We had a similar competition on a bench session, but: target score was unknown UNTIL start of the competition... Idea: 1. increase time frame for submit up to eg 24 h 2. timeframe can be adjusted from stage to stage for every reagion (EU / US / ASIA) - let's say first stage starts at 0800 am CET, second 0400 pm CET, third 0000 am 3. target unknown, maybe just give a range - secret trarget is eg 80.000 3D03 and just a range from 60.000 ~ 100.000 is published to prepare the right hardware => first hit is the winner, or the closest score after 24 h for shure, these 24 h are though, but can also be changed down to 4 h or 8 h... Edited October 27, 2014 by stummerwinter Quote
sofos1990 Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Easy... We had a similar competition on a bench session, but: target score was unknown UNTIL start of the competition... Idea: 1. increase time frame for submit up to eg 24 h 2. timeframe can be adjusted from stage to stage for every reagion (EU / US / ASIA) - let's say first stage starts at 0800 am CET, second 0400 pm CET, third 0000 am 3. target unknown, maybe just give a range - secret trarget is eg 80.000 3D03 and just a range from 60.000 ~ 100.000 is published to prepare the right hardware => first hit is the winner, or the closest score after 24 h for shure, these 24 h are though, but can also be changed down to 4 h or 8 h... Thanks Stummi. We will have it in mind for next time Quote
MaJ0r Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Our server back-end isn't too great with multiple requests from a single connection. Submitting multiple scores at the same time from the same PC/connection may indeed cause a delay. Of course, but seems it wasn't working for MarineOC )) Quote
AwardFabrik Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) is it just me or does 05 gives a hard time matching a certain score?...it's soooooo random I had +2 and -2 already but next run --> +/- 100 points....well there is still some time left so re-run, re-run, re-run... @Massman don't blame the server, according to what I know from servers, dbs and stuff this lag is caused by all the other multiple submissions not just the one sending it (server actually doesn't care where the data comes from, it just reserves IDs and starts to handle them first-in, first-out!).. my first result in stage 1 took 38 seconds to be accepted because there have been like 20-40 results in queue from others...I only sended one single result and it lagged like never before...If everybody only submits one result -> less/no lag -> no problem Edited October 27, 2014 by AwardFabrik Quote
skulstation Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) is it just me or does 05 gives a hard time matching a certain score?...it's soooooo random I had +2 and -2 already but next run --> +/- 100 points....well there is still some time left so re-run, re-run, re-run... I have the same thing but whit a bigger gap to the target. closest for the moment is +- 14 for the second day,tomorow its an other day to rerun and close the gap. Edited October 27, 2014 by skulstation Quote
AwardFabrik Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) The real bad thing - I didn't saved that 30255 on sunday because I thought "ok I'll just nail it monday... After relooping almost entire monday -> fufufufufuffufufufuffu ^^ Had one 30275, first mixed the last digits, party on - then realized - that's not the score... €: darn I really need to fix that login -.- Edited October 27, 2014 by AwardFabrik Quote
Crabby Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 The real bad thing - I didn't saved that 30255 on sunday because I thought "ok I'll just nail it monday... After relooping almost entire monday -> fufufufufuffufufufuffu ^^ Had one 30275, first mixed the last digits, party on - then realized - that's not the score... €: darn I really need to fix that login -.- Yes but it makes hitting the target that much sweeter! Quote
SoF Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 Had 30258 two times now...more re-runs than XTU and Prime together - this stage starts to get out of control for me Quote
I.nfraR.ed Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 I haven't tried yet, but nailed hwbot prime from the 5th run. Then forgot about the time change This is the consequence of using "smart" alarms with self-adjusting day-light saving time. If I only have used a conventional alarm clock... Quote
etoile Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 Please, guys tell me is my photo legit ? BTW do we need online URL to enter this competion? Thanks!!! P/S: The funny thing that among my futuremark collection, ONLY 3dmark 05 is missing, lolz! Quote
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