DDR4 Geil 4000 c19-25-25-45 (samsung-b)

[RULE]

Hi all, just the other day after team.au aquamark submission i've discovered the existing of samsunb-b die. Searching in EU shop i've found a kit with not much information on the web, Geil Dragon PC4-32000 4000 cl19-25-25-45 1.4v 2x8GB KIT (GWW416GB4000C19DC).

Even on Geil official website there's nothing about this kit, but since all the DDR4 Dragon I've seen was single side and this kit was 2x8GB i've try to purchase with the hope to find Sumsung-b die. Lucky me it is.

 

 

 

 

 

So i see the the Loud Silence 32M of yesterday on Z170M OCF, my Big Yellow is on the way home after RMA, the MOCF is not available yet in EU, so i've run some XTU on Asus Z170 Gene. Nothing against Asus, i just prefer the Yellow Board.

 

 

Starting from here @ 1,70v

 

 

Here @ 1,80V

 

 

Again @ 1,80v very thight

 

 

1900 @ 1,85v very thight

 

 

 

There's more in this kit, tomorrow i'll try some cold.

[Doug2507]

Expensive kit!

[websmile]

Buy them all, Doug

[Doug2507]

Wouldn't even buy 1!

 

In for results though!

[websmile]

Mems look good, on impact or 2 dimm ocf they will most likely fly

[Alex@ro]

Good find!

 

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[RULE]

Mems look good, on impact or 2 dimm ocf they will most likely fly

 

I'm curios with 4 dimm will be crazy efficient in XTU, but 700€ is a lot of money.

[rtsurfer]

I'm curios with 4 dimm will be crazy efficient in XTU, but 700€ is a lot of money.

I am not sure if we will be able to clock 4DIMM as high as 2 DIMMs.

 

32GB is a lot of memory & will be hard on the IMC.

 

 

Thank you for your tests.

[GtiJason]

After reading this I was curious to see what info I could find, not exactly what I was looking for but a good laugh none the least.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0192FM9302&cm_re=geil-_-9SIA0192FM9302-_-Product

[Splave]

Nice testing!

[Asmola]

Where from you found this kit? Nice kit!

[l0ud_sil3nc3]

I am not sure if we will be able to clock 4DIMM as high as 2 DIMMs.

 

32GB is a lot of memory & will be hard on the IMC.

 

 

Thank you for your tests.

 

 

32GB good on big OCF, at least for 3700 12-12-12 but it needs 2T, so on Asus they should go much higher and no problem with 1T as the layout is better optimized for 4 dimm operation.

 

Little board, well we know they work quite well on it

[RULE]

Where from you found this kit? Nice kit!

 

Easy to find in EU, try google https://www.google.com/search?q=GWW416GB4000C19DC&oq=GWW416GB4000C19DC&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i61&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

[rtsurfer]

32GB good on big OCF, at least for 3700 12-12-12 but it needs 2T, so on Asus they should go much higher and no problem with 1T as the layout is better optimized for 4 dimm operation.

 

Little board, well we know they work quite well on it

Thanks for the info man.

Still even on Asus, I think 4 DIMM maxes out around 3800.

 

So the question is what's faster 2DIMMs at 4000Mhz+ or 4DIMMs around 3800Mhz. Should be close.

 

Then there's also the mystery of DS.

[RULE]

Quick run just befor Christmas lunch.

 

CPU@AIO - RAM@SS -58°c 2,0v

 

 

Good news, there's no CB until -58°c. But is hard found stability, need more time and cpu with better cooling.

 

[Guest george.kokovinis]

Folks,

 

If my questions are stupid, please do not throw rocks or anything else:D

 

1) Would four of these single sided B-die sticks work correctly on X99

platform as quad channel setup ? ( Asus RVE )

2) How much safe voltage tolerance is there for ram sticks and IMC on X99 ?

 

I am currently running G.Skill Ripjaws 4 - 3200, 4x4gb, 13-14-16-16-270-1T with 1.55V and never had an issue.

 

Would such an expensive 700 Euros upgrade ( if applicable ) offer noticeable

improvements ?

 

Thanks for any feedback folks:)

[Leeghoofd]

nope George it won't

[Guest george.kokovinis]

nope George it won't

 

 

THANK YOU VERY MUCH !

Appreciated.

I thought that the answer would be negative - just a long shot.

 

I will go with the new G.Skill 3666, recently introduced for X99.

If I can find them:(

[Alex@ro]

3666 for x99?where?

 

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[Leeghoofd]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH !

Appreciated.

I thought that the answer would be negative - just a long shot.

 

It might bring a minuscule extra for benching, but not worthwhile the extra cost man... some stuff is just over-rated... Faster memory speed is not always better

[Guest george.kokovinis]

3666 for x99?where?

 

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Hi Alex,

 

 

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/g-skill-offer-ripjaws-4-series-ddr4-3666mhz-memory-kit.html

 

Some German distributors have them.

Will update when found.

[Alex@ro]

Oh... Well don't waste money on those man, they should have E-die on them similar to 3200 3466 dual and quad kits

 

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Edited December 26, 2015 by Alex@ro

[Guest george.kokovinis]

It might bring a minuscule extra for benching, but not worthwhile the extra cost man... some stuff is just over-rated... Faster memory speed is not always better

 

Oh... Well don't waste money on those man, yhey have same ic as lower models like 3200 3466 and 3600 fot skylake....

 

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Always nice to have some wise advice from experts.

 

Thank you both so much. I will stay put.

[Doug2507]

Don't see the point in those, just get b die and put em in x99. E die ran no problem.

[Doug2507]

I'd expect 3400 11 11 11 or less with b die on air on x99, looking forward to testing!