nickolp1974 Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 (edited) Testing criteria 5000mhz core, 4500mhz cache, 3600mhz mems (if possible), test for lowest vcore for Cinebench R15! For scaling testing: Increase core by 1 multi to check scaling and post your results (with a screenshot) List proper batch nr, the CPU VID, the Vcore needed for 5GHz, CPU delidded yes or no, the Mobo type and used cooling See post #56 for my results Here's the current HWBOT listing: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16KxS63ka2cnht2HYbjXVtx9hcqc-ZhRatDBD2x8Up7k/edit?usp=sharing Edited February 1, 2017 by Massman Quote
Strong Island Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 Picked a 7700K up today and had a quick play.Batch L639(retail), MOCF(7.21b), watercooled, delid Cine R15 50/42/3000 everything auto, lowest pass 1.205v 53/50/4080c12 1.465v wow sounds like really nice chip Quote
Rauf Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 Yes, seems very good compared to the tests I have seen on facebook! Quote
Strong Island Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 Yes, seems very good compared to the tests I have seen on facebook! ya 1.2v 5.0 is lowest I have seen, cant wait to try mine. Quote
nickolp1974 Posted January 9, 2017 Author Posted January 9, 2017 Not seen much info apart from the odd FB post and of course the subs here, so it would be nice to see others findings and not just the end result. Quote
Strong Island Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 Not seen much info apart from the odd FB post and of course the subs here, so it would be nice to see others findings and not just the end result. ya I have 2 chips but waiting for the Apex before really getting into them Quote
speed.fastest Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 Sounds like golden chip, the best i have seen on facebook is 5ghz 1.14v 1 Quote
nickolp1974 Posted January 9, 2017 Author Posted January 9, 2017 ya I have 2 chips but waiting for the Apex before really getting into them Yeah likewise, well wont be taking it cold until the apex. Been 11 months for me so i can wait a little longer! Quote
suzuki Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 You should set up a voltage point for everyone to test,like 1.35v cinebench,for exeample. 5 ghz it's not relevant anymore as most of them do that,but how the scalling is up to 1.35v is relevant to any air/watercooler . I heard of o few "specimens" that do prime 95 at 5.3 ghz@1.35v ,maybe in the next month other monster cpu's will be unveilled . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
Guest Bullant Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 (edited) One I bought 2 days ago think it's L641 batch will check when home, not delid 50/45 will delid soon and try cold Room temps prob 28c Edited January 9, 2017 by Bullant Quote
I.nfraR.ed Posted January 10, 2017 Posted January 10, 2017 You should set up a voltage point for everyone to test,like 1.35v cinebench,for exeample.5 ghz it's not relevant anymore as most of them do that,but how the scalling is up to 1.35v is relevant to any air/watercooler . I heard of o few "specimens" that do prime 95 at 5.3 ghz@1.35v ,maybe in the next month other monster cpu's will be unveilled . That's impossible with my CPU without deliding. Hitting the limit at < 1.3V on AIO and 23C room temperature. Can't do much more than 5.1 on AIO, because of temperature. 5G@1.2V Quote
suzuki Posted January 10, 2017 Posted January 10, 2017 Some of them scale better than others,it will not be so relevant if you test only 5 ghz. At least do 5 & 5.1 ghz ,to see diference in the voltage and scaling potential. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
speed.fastest Posted January 10, 2017 Posted January 10, 2017 My CPU, L639F Batch, vid 1.168v (On Asus), not delidded, try to find max clock that i can validate to CPU-Z. Vcore 1.475v (LLC Lv6, stable at 1.475v). Cooler Custom Water 3x120 Ambient about 26-28 Celcius. 5546 MHz 4C/8T 1 Quote
Crew Leeghoofd Posted January 10, 2017 Crew Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) Raise uncore to 4500 and see if it still passes... In fact 5GHz is a good comparison point regarding temps... From the ones (35 pieces) we tested last week, the best that could do multiple runs of CB R15 (5000/4500 & mems at 3600) with a non fixated DH 15 was at 1.23Vcore on GB Z270X SOC. (Non delidded) Average voltage was around 1.285Vcore Massman has the Excel sheet Edited January 10, 2017 by Leeghoofd Quote
I.nfraR.ed Posted January 10, 2017 Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) I can do multiple passes at 5. Raising uncore to 4.8 needs bump in voltage to 1.23V. Then for 5.1 cores, it needs around 1.28V. VID is 1.104 on Asrock OCF. I will test on LN2 and don't see a point pushing hard on air/AIO for 5.2 - 5.3 with temps hitting well above 90. Edited January 10, 2017 by I.nfraR.ed Quote
Alex@ro Posted January 10, 2017 Posted January 10, 2017 Cache seems typical to Skylake or even worse,among the cpu's i tested for 5000 cache lowest ones were with 1.30-1.31,4800 worked ok for 1.23-4 tough. Best cpu ever i touched would not crush when set 5000/5000 1.27,for complete stabilty in 32M and stuff would be 1.285V for 5000 cache 1 Quote
speed.fastest Posted January 10, 2017 Posted January 10, 2017 I think cache is about same as Skylake, except temp was higher on Kaby Lake that made it unstable ^^ Quote
M.Beier Posted January 10, 2017 Posted January 10, 2017 Sorry for barking here. Anyone made a spreadsheet of batch / volt etc...? Just got myself a L643, not tested yet. Quote
nickolp1974 Posted January 10, 2017 Author Posted January 10, 2017 Raise uncore to 4500 and see if it still passes... In fact 5GHz is a good comparison point regarding temps... From the ones (35 pieces) we tested last week, the best that could do multiple runs of CB R15 (5000/4500 & mems at 3600) with a non fixated DH 15 was at 1.23Vcore on GB Z270X SOC. (Non delidded) Average voltage was around 1.285Vcore Massman has the Excel sheet Ok should we keep in line then hwbotters?? Start at 50/45/36 and raise core to check scaling?? I'll have a go later and post. Quote
Crew gavbon Posted January 10, 2017 Crew Posted January 10, 2017 My results i7-7700k (240mm AIO) - Not de-lidded Mobo - ASUS Z270 Hero Batch L642G085 VID - 1.168v 50/45/3000 - 1.23v Cinebench R15 - PASS 51/45/3000 - 1.31v Cinebench R15 - PASS 52/45/3000 - 1.35v Cinebench R15 - FAIL 51/44/3000 - 1.39v (102bclk for 5.2GHz) - FAIL 51/44/3000 - 1.4v (102bclk for 5.2GHz) - PASS Worth de-lidding or not? Quote
nickolp1974 Posted January 10, 2017 Author Posted January 10, 2017 50/45/3600 1.23v 51/45/3600 1.28v 52/45/3600 1.34v 53/45/3600 upto 1.46v 5 secs fail 5263/4454/3646 1.44v 88c Quote
Crew Leeghoofd Posted January 10, 2017 Crew Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) i7-7700k (240mm BeQuiet Silent Loop AIO) - Not de-lidded Mobo - MSI Z270 XPOWER Mem G.Skill 2x 8GB 3600C17 at XMP settings Batch TBC VID - 1.190v 50/45/3600 - 1.24v Cinebench R15 - PASS 51/45/3600 - 1.29v Cinebench R15 - PASS Not tried higher.... Edited January 11, 2017 by Leeghoofd Quote
M.Beier Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) i7-7700k (240mm BeQuiet Silent Loop AIO) - Not de-lidded Mobo - MSI Z270 XPOWER Batch TBC VID - 1.190v 50/45/3000 - 1.24v Cinebench R15 - PASS 51/45/3000 - 1.29v Cinebench R15 - PASS Not tried higher.... Being a dick, can I suggest one more thing added? Ram modules and size. Personally I will try to see if 2x 8GB vs. 2x 16GB(sorry wasnt 2*32, lol) makes any difference to how much uncore and ram it will allow at each vgpu Finally: VID, default, I think it was Splave whom listed that on facebook, I somehow find that interesting too... If nobody else reports in, I could start a spreadsheet... Think it would make more sense Massman doing it, if he already has 35 chips listed. Will test my chip tomorrow, I became uncle a few hours ago, hence why not test the chip yet^^ Edited January 11, 2017 by M.Beier Quote
Crew Leeghoofd Posted January 11, 2017 Crew Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) Not many have 2 x 32GB... don't see any purpose need in that, most bench with B-Die anyway... Keep it simple and straightforward; something everybody can test or replicate... I'll keep the excell updated once I get it Edited January 11, 2017 by Leeghoofd Quote
M.Beier Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) Your the man! Oh and I meant 2x 16GB, I will test both, just for the fun of it, have 2 kits at home, and 3rd waiting pickup. F4-3400C16D-32GTZ 235 Euro for 32GB D4-3400, I couldnt resist temptation. B-Die is true as for benching at the moment. What do you think of the VID part? Worth putting there or not^^ Edited January 11, 2017 by M.Beier Quote
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