K404 Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 My thinking behind this is that there's a PCB crossover, a device ID crossover, the + is a re-named GTX and results between the cards cant be differentiated.... Im entirely convinced theres GTX+ scores in the GTX category (especially Vantage) that can never be moderated beyond reasonable doubt. Any thoughts? Quote
Eeky NoX Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 Mine is that I would be ok cus giving more submissions to the hw and more boints btw But non "+" GTX's owners would be the loosers in this case I think isn't it ? Quote
knopflerbruce Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 I actually agree with K404. There is very little difference (at least on the extreme end of the rankings) between the two cards, and since it's not possible to tell what card it is, perhaps merging is the best solution here:) Quote
K404 Posted February 13, 2011 Author Posted February 13, 2011 Mine is that I would be ok cus giving more submissions to the hw and more boints btw But non "+" GTX's owners would be the loosers in this case I think isn't it ? It's fairly close My GTX scales with cold... my GTX+ had better RAM but didn't give me any extra MHz under dice I actually agree with K404. There is very little difference (at least on the extreme end of the rankings) between the two cards, and since it's not possible to tell what card it is, perhaps merging is the best solution here:) :D Quote
Eeky NoX Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 Yup 1300+ ram on it... I vote for I need to mod them now ^^ Quote
Splave Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 why not throw gts-250 in there too then Quote
ARandomOWL Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 Splave, I think the point is that 9800GTX/+ can't be distinguished in screenshots. Quote
Eeky NoX Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 Exactly @K404 do you think this merging could be effective soon ? /me like Quote
K404 Posted February 13, 2011 Author Posted February 13, 2011 Nothing to do with me bro, i'm not HWB staff Quote
knopflerbruce Posted February 14, 2011 Posted February 14, 2011 It's gonna take a while if it has to be done manually, and I want some more MOD opinions on this matter before I do that (if I have to). Quote
Massman Posted February 14, 2011 Posted February 14, 2011 I wouldn't be completely against the idea. Whatever the opinion of the crowd is, is my opinion . //edit: threw it on twitter, maybe we can have more opinions on this matter. Quote
TheDarkN8 Posted February 14, 2011 Posted February 14, 2011 Prolly best if you remove points from both categories? On one side the jerks that put their scores in the wrong category will get even more points from the merge. On the other side, Honest people lose some points from their profile. Quote
K404 Posted February 14, 2011 Author Posted February 14, 2011 (edited) Prolly best if you remove points from both categories? On one side the jerks that put their scores in the wrong category will get even more points from the merge. On the other side, Honest people lose some points from their profile. No they won't. The "jerks" have their advantage removed and most people get more points... how many people compete in both GTX and GTX+ categories? Some people will lose a few cups Thanks Massman Edited February 14, 2011 by K404 Quote
Crew Turrican Posted February 14, 2011 Crew Posted February 14, 2011 sounds not too bad. what's the exact difference between these 2 cards btw. ? Quote
Christian Ney Posted February 14, 2011 Posted February 14, 2011 (edited) higher clocks 9800 GTX : 675/1688 Mhz (core/shaders) 9800 GTX+ : 738/1836 Mhz (core/shaders) Edited February 14, 2011 by Christian Ney Quote
ARandomOWL Posted February 14, 2011 Posted February 14, 2011 Wasn't the GTX+ a die shrink of the GTX? Quote
Crew Turrican Posted February 14, 2011 Crew Posted February 14, 2011 Wasn't the GTX+ a die shrink of the GTX? did some research. so basically it deserves a seprate category 9800gtx 65nm 9800gtx+ 55nm Quote
K404 Posted February 14, 2011 Author Posted February 14, 2011 9800GTX+ is no guarantee of shrink bro. A lot are just rebadged. New HSF stickers. I have had 65nm 9800GTX, GTX+, 9800GT and GTS250.... according to GPU-Z anyway. Quote
Crew Turrican Posted February 14, 2011 Crew Posted February 14, 2011 9800GTX+ is no guarantee of shrink bro. A lot are just rebadged. New HSF stickers. I have had 65nm 9800GTX, GTX+, 9800GT and GTS250.... according to GPU-Z anyway. ok, that's crappy then. Quote
Massman Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 So, 9800GTX+ was supposed to be die shrink + clock increase, but manufacturers named their products GTX+ if they just had the clock increase? Haha! Quote
Christian Ney Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 (edited) So we can't combine them GTX : 65nm GTX+ : 55nm and manufacturers' GTX+(65nm) have to be posted under GTX(65nm) Edited February 15, 2011 by Christian Ney Quote
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