Massman Posted May 14, 2011 Posted May 14, 2011 With REV4, HWBOT will be able to separate global points and hardware points for benchmarks. Unlike today, where a benchmark application either receives both global and hardware or no points at all, we'll be able to give benchmarks global, hardware, both or none. The plan was to set CPU-Z to 'hardware points' status when Rev4 launched. As there has been quite some complaints about this, we've revised this and re-enabled global points for now. The question still remains: should CPU-Z receive global points or not? Your vote! Like always, voting is public. Quote
Bullet1 Posted May 14, 2011 Posted May 14, 2011 Finally.. like the democracy lol CPU-Z's back man Quote
Crew Leeghoofd Posted May 14, 2011 Crew Posted May 14, 2011 Massman will have to bend at least once lol Quote
cyclone Posted May 14, 2011 Posted May 14, 2011 Very high CPU-Z Validations are something very specialand quite hard to get even with candy-CPUs.i think people who get such validation should be rewarded also by globals -) Quote
chispy Posted May 14, 2011 Posted May 14, 2011 Voted YES to: Yes. Global and hardware points. Thank you for listening to the masses massman . Quote
Vinster Posted May 14, 2011 Posted May 14, 2011 Voted Yes both... Thanks Massman for giving us this opportunity. Vin Quote
M.Beier Posted May 14, 2011 Posted May 14, 2011 I think it should be removed... Shoot me... I think that less vendor influence in the game would be a nice change.... Quote
TaPaKaH Posted May 14, 2011 Posted May 14, 2011 I think that less vendor influence in the game would be a nice change....You mean more vendor influence? .. since CPU-Z is a rare category marketing pimps can do nothing about Quote
Crew Antinomy Posted May 14, 2011 Crew Posted May 14, 2011 Voted yes - both global and public. It's one of the most fun benchmarks. Quote
Brian y. Posted May 14, 2011 Posted May 14, 2011 You mean more vendor influence? .. since CPU-Z is a rare category marketing pimps can do nothing about+1 Quote
OMEGA3 Posted May 14, 2011 Posted May 14, 2011 You mean more vendor influence? .. since CPU-Z is a rare category marketing pimps can do nothing about +1 Quote
Massman Posted May 15, 2011 Author Posted May 15, 2011 I think it should be removed... Shoot me...I think that less vendor influence in the game would be a nice change.... You mean more vendor influence? .. since CPU-Z is a rare category marketing pimps can do nothing about Excellent. People are so focussed on 'vendor influence' nowadays that they see it everywhere. Perfect example. Quote
Mr.Scott Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 CPU-Z validation is a "no skill involved" benchmark. Cool it, clock it, press F7. Meh, the processor either clocks or it doesn't. Voted for HW points only. Globals should be given when there is at least some user skill involved, not because you pulled a lucky chip out of a hat. Quote
Massman Posted May 15, 2011 Author Posted May 15, 2011 Thank you for listening to the masses massman . I always listen to the mass. Quote
Kurbel Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 CPU-Z validation is a "no skill involved" benchmark. Cool it, clock it, press F7. Meh, the processor either clocks or it doesn't. Voted for HW points only. Globals should be given when there is at least some user skill involved, not because you pulled a lucky chip out of a hat. and Pifast/SPi1m/Wprime is different? Quote
Mr.Scott Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 and Pifast/SPi1m/Wprime is different? Absolutely. There are tweaks for all of those. Quote
Bullet1 Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 Absolutely. There are tweaks for all of those. Same for CPU-Z. Knowledge is your main tweak. If you say binning chip is the thing which make CPU-Z, you can say that for every single bench too. CPU-Z is just fun and without some knowledge you wont get some awesome results (like in all benches). Quote
Mr.Scott Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 There is no skill involved in binning, just cost. Maybe there should be global points for the fattest wallet then. Quote
Mr.Scott Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 (edited) Whatever. Just one man's opinion is all. I should have voted no points, but I felt that you should get something for just running the validation. Edited May 15, 2011 by Mr.Scott Quote
Massman Posted May 15, 2011 Author Posted May 15, 2011 It's not really about the skill or effort required to obtain a certain result, but rather about the meaning of the value that you are comparing. If you compare a SuperPI or 3DMark result, then it's very clear that "lower = better" or "higher = better". The value of the end result cán be compared to any other system, and the comparison tells us something about the performance of that system. Comparing frequencies doesn't really tell you anything about the performance or even capabilities of a system. It is just 'a number' that you are comparing. And some architectures just happen to be running higher frequencies. Perhaps a better CPU-Z ranking would be %-overclock, because then at least the number is relative to the architecture. Quote
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