Posted May 14, 201114 yr With REV4, HWBOT will be able to separate global points and hardware points for benchmarks. Unlike today, where a benchmark application either receives both global and hardware or no points at all, we'll be able to give benchmarks global, hardware, both or none. The plan was to set CPU-Z to 'hardware points' status when Rev4 launched. As there has been quite some complaints about this, we've revised this and re-enabled global points for now. The question still remains: should CPU-Z receive global points or not? Your vote! Like always, voting is public.
May 14, 201114 yr Very high CPU-Z Validations are something very specialand quite hard to get even with candy-CPUs.i think people who get such validation should be rewarded also by globals -)
May 14, 201114 yr Voted YES to: Yes. Global and hardware points. Thank you for listening to the masses massman .
May 14, 201114 yr I think it should be removed... Shoot me... I think that less vendor influence in the game would be a nice change....
May 14, 201114 yr I think that less vendor influence in the game would be a nice change....You mean more vendor influence? .. since CPU-Z is a rare category marketing pimps can do nothing about
May 14, 201114 yr You mean more vendor influence? .. since CPU-Z is a rare category marketing pimps can do nothing about+1
May 14, 201114 yr You mean more vendor influence? .. since CPU-Z is a rare category marketing pimps can do nothing about +1
May 15, 201114 yr Author I think it should be removed... Shoot me...I think that less vendor influence in the game would be a nice change.... You mean more vendor influence? .. since CPU-Z is a rare category marketing pimps can do nothing about Excellent. People are so focussed on 'vendor influence' nowadays that they see it everywhere. Perfect example.
May 15, 201114 yr CPU-Z validation is a "no skill involved" benchmark. Cool it, clock it, press F7. Meh, the processor either clocks or it doesn't. Voted for HW points only. Globals should be given when there is at least some user skill involved, not because you pulled a lucky chip out of a hat.
May 15, 201114 yr Author Thank you for listening to the masses massman . I always listen to the mass.
May 15, 201114 yr CPU-Z validation is a "no skill involved" benchmark. Cool it, clock it, press F7. Meh, the processor either clocks or it doesn't. Voted for HW points only. Globals should be given when there is at least some user skill involved, not because you pulled a lucky chip out of a hat. and Pifast/SPi1m/Wprime is different?
May 15, 201114 yr and Pifast/SPi1m/Wprime is different? Absolutely. There are tweaks for all of those.
May 15, 201114 yr Absolutely. There are tweaks for all of those. Same for CPU-Z. Knowledge is your main tweak. If you say binning chip is the thing which make CPU-Z, you can say that for every single bench too. CPU-Z is just fun and without some knowledge you wont get some awesome results (like in all benches).
May 15, 201114 yr There is no skill involved in binning, just cost. Maybe there should be global points for the fattest wallet then.
May 15, 201114 yr Whatever. Just one man's opinion is all. I should have voted no points, but I felt that you should get something for just running the validation. Edited May 15, 201114 yr by Mr.Scott
May 15, 201114 yr Author It's not really about the skill or effort required to obtain a certain result, but rather about the meaning of the value that you are comparing. If you compare a SuperPI or 3DMark result, then it's very clear that "lower = better" or "higher = better". The value of the end result cán be compared to any other system, and the comparison tells us something about the performance of that system. Comparing frequencies doesn't really tell you anything about the performance or even capabilities of a system. It is just 'a number' that you are comparing. And some architectures just happen to be running higher frequencies. Perhaps a better CPU-Z ranking would be %-overclock, because then at least the number is relative to the architecture.
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