Wizerty Posted October 13, 2013 Posted October 13, 2013 Thanks a lot for your works, and for sharing. What's the "best" chips ? low leakage or high leakage (for LN2) ? and scalar high or low ? 1 Quote
The Stilt Posted October 14, 2013 Author Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) LSlowmotion: I'll fix that issue with 5600K asap. Thanks a lot for your works, and for sharing. What's the "best" chips ? low leakage or high leakage (for LN2) ? and scalar high or low ? High leakage parts are a must for high frequencies. Otherwise you will run into a voltage wall. The best parts for high frequency have ultra high to extreme leakage and ultra low (<1980) leakage scalar. Lower the leakage scalar value, higher the silicon quality (despite the leakage). In my personal experience: 1.3375V = 7.6GHz 1.3125V = 7.8GHz 1.2875V = 8.0GHz 1.2750V = 8.2GHz(+) 1.2500V = ?.?GHz Edited October 14, 2013 by The Stilt Quote
ObscureParadox Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 Seriously tempted to have a go at this when I set up my FM2. @The Stilt you sir are truly a legend! Quote
NoMS Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 A10-5800K: Same issue of LSlowmotion 5600K. Quote
flanker Posted October 29, 2013 Posted October 29, 2013 Seems not much bad CPU...lol. Not always I have lucky hand for chip (or its bug? All Trinitys here seems very bad) Quote
mekduk Posted October 29, 2013 Posted October 29, 2013 Hi all, I am new here and really admire what Stilt has done for the APU community. I have similar undeclared variables issue running on Windows 8, ASRock A85X Extreme 6, A6-6400K. May I know if this processor going to be supported in the future? The program has been running smoothly on my A10-6800K though with the result as attached. Anyway, the leakage scalar is pretty low on this CPU but the rest of the value seems to be the middle of the road. May I know if this is going to be a good candidate for overclocking on air cooling? Quote
The Stilt Posted October 30, 2013 Author Posted October 30, 2013 Yeah, Trinity and some Richland models are broken. Will fix it in a new version, with couple of new SKUs added. Quote
mekduk Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Thank you very much for your very prompt reply. Looking forward to the newer version to check the other APUs that I have on hand. Quote
flanker Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 will be working with Kaveri chips too or it must be new software for it? Quote
mekduk Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Just a wild guess, when the BIOS/UEFI is set to default CPU voltage (auto) on stock clock, would it be an indicator of rough estimate on the base leakage percentage? Quote
The Stilt Posted November 2, 2013 Author Posted November 2, 2013 AFI R1.02 Changes: - Fixed the issues with Trinity APUs. - Fixed the faulty PState7 frequency reading. - Added support for the new Richland APUs / NPUs ("20"-series, K-series). Quote
The Stilt Posted November 2, 2013 Author Posted November 2, 2013 will be working with Kaveri chips too or it must be new software for it? The software will not run on Kaveri due the hardware checks. The registers on Kaveri and Carrizo are different anyway. AFI is likely to be the last software I make so I cannot promise support for the upcoming parts. If I happen to be still around I will add support for Indus, Bald Eagle, Steppe Eagle, Mullins and Golden Eagle too. Quote
mekduk Posted November 2, 2013 Posted November 2, 2013 You are indeed the legend AMD should just channel a tiny bit of their resources just for this kind of project. Works better than the huge marketing budget that they have spent so far. Quote
mekduk Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 Quick question, to achieve a good result for undervolting/underclocking A6-6400K (target clock is ~3Ghz), what to look for in this AFI tool (i.e.: how to bin for the lower power?)? Here is my current result on my A6-6400K attached. Quote
The Stilt Posted November 4, 2013 Author Posted November 4, 2013 That is a low leak part, which are generally optimal for underclocking. The required voltage will be slighty higher, however the current draw is much lower. Puts less stress on the VRM too. After the estimated load-line effect, the actual stock voltages would be (roughly): 3.9GHz - 1.29875V 3.6GHz - 1.24125V 3.1GHz - 1.15625V Only beyond that it is undervolting (technically). Those frequencies and voltage should be "factory stable" with load-line close to 0%. Quote
mekduk Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 Thanks so much for your concise and quick reply. How about the other voltages that we can set through UEFI? At the moment not planning to use it for gaming but solely files/music playback. Currently stable at 1.000V at ~3.1Ghz (slightly less, got the board with 99.82Mhz bus speed). Really interesting to see the upcoming APUs and what the possibilities would be with the smaller process some time early next year. Quote
flanker Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 it will be question...Its TSMC 28nm, hard to say....I heard some spekulation about 28nm TSMC and FX: one of the reasons no more FX yet is technology process by TSMC. In theory 28nm TSMC is more power hungry than current 32nm SOI HK with the same size of die. So maybe some FX with new process (20nm?)??? Quote
The Stilt Posted November 4, 2013 Author Posted November 4, 2013 it will be question...Its TSMC 28nm, hard to say....I heard some spekulation about 28nm TSMC and FX: one of the reasons no more FX yet is technology process by TSMC. In theory 28nm TSMC is more power hungry than current 32nm SOI HK with the same size of die. So maybe some FX with new process (20nm?)??? Only SoCs and the GPUs are made on TSMC 28nm node. The APUs are made on GlobalFoundries new 28nm node. Quote
filmbot Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 Work on Llano also? Only seen mention of Trinity and Richland. Quote
NoMS Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 (edited) Tested 3D on DICE, IGP isn't that great on this one (+/- 1350 3dm03 @ 1.65V). EDIT: Nothing is good on this one... Edited November 13, 2013 by NoMS Quote
Calathea Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 Exactly the same values on my new 5800k. Seems there still are some issues when using trinity. Quote
Splave Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 should be not bad but not great correct? Quote
FqqTBawL Posted December 14, 2013 Posted December 14, 2013 (edited) Hi, Sorry to bother. I can not seem to get this working? I keep getting an application error "memory could not be read" as per the attached picture. Asrock A88x Extreme 6+ and A8-6600k windows 7 32 Got it working, fresh install windows... Edited February 1, 2014 by FqqTBawL Quote
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