Xtreme Addict

@Massman I am not blaming currently vendors or HWBOT regarding the current situation, even I stated in previous post with GB Skylake contest that I doubt something will be hosted after low amount of participants. Even where competitions had bad rules, I tried (and almost in all) I posted some scores, even just for a lucky draw. I believe that if most ocers did as I was doing, XOC contests participation would be few times bigger ^^ XOC participation is harder than ambient, because it all costs more. For ambient even if you don't have motherboard, you can just buy it online (especially in EU), use it on benchtable without any signs of damage/mounting in the case and return to the shop and get a full refund. When you want to do same for LN2, well isolating motherboard might make it impossible to return to the shop. LN2 is also expensive and you need like a good CPU and so on to make it worth. Though if all the guys who got samples from the vendors just pushed something, as they should, numbers would look like much better. That's why I didn't write we have to fix XOC contests, cause most likely it's a lost cause. I wrote that those few guys who like competitions, like winning hw, some purpose to bench, will have to adapt and we will do it legally (if HWBOT opens it to all) or we will just do it illegally (with some puppets). In this thread I stated pretty much obvious, XOC for private ocers is dead, cause no competitions, samples are more and more limited, but I agree XOC will not die (not now and in few years) in terms of the launch to show potential of new CPUs and so on, but it will be more and more limited to just few chosen/elite guys, or maybe even at some point just for in-house overclockers. With HW more and more expensive I believe we will see lower and lower amount of XOC guys playing in the rankings. But there will be always someone doing something, cause it's a hobby, has $ and nothing better to do

Sure, all is not allowed, hw sharing, score sharing too and we can see it sometimes among many well known users or even mods. The problem is how much you can prove. Using some puppet with new hwbot account or some older retired user from hwbot and so on, what is the problem? you can supply pictures of setup, even with his face on it ^^ his address for shipping prizes. I am just saying - HWBOT will not be able to prove anything. Especially that we are talking about ambient with strict rules like +30*C, so just 300-400 euro EK waterloop will be good enough for that. Everyone can buy it. Of course when someone from nowhere appears in XOC and gets like WR or top 3 score in competition out of nowhere this is a bit suspicious.

Well why shitstorm? I see 2 possible things, a) hwbot opens ambient to all b) some XOC guys who will be bored will just use fake accounts or put friends or other air/wc users from their city/country just to have some fun/try to win some parts

Looks like that. Asus launches @ 2x ambient contests, no extreme version, it's not even in plans afaik. MSI informed it's last XOC contest, if they ever do another contest @ it will be only ambient. GB is for now sleeping but they pushed some competitions in the past with too much LC and not many xoc guys participated, so most likely they will take a long pause if ever decided to push some more online XOC contests. This is regarding online contests from hwbot sponsors. Regarding live contests: HOT most likely won't happen this year, AOOC is stopped since 2014, MOA won't happen ever again cause MSI is going for gaming only, GOOC is cancelled for 6 years now ^^ So basically XOC contests are out for the moment or even forever, so in such case we have to discuss opening of all ambient contests to all the guys. Cause why Extreme and Elite hw should be getting dust?

XOC is dead. No more online XOC contests (the MSI one is the last one for XOC), no more XOC live contests hosted by HWBOT sponsors. I think time to change rules that everyone can participate in ambient contests cause if that doesn't happen, most of us will just compete for those because of boredom on different accounts, or putting puppets ahead of us (like my younger brother ^^).

I have a good day, found golden 6950X (5.3+ R15) and few potentially golden 6700K, all in one day. LN2 time binning!

You are funny cause you fail and can't admit that. Geekbench3 Rules You have rules exactly written down with fancy table in colours for children. PRO guys should be able to read. Yes those are harsh words but it's the truth. Regarding scores which don't have RTC app (I guess it's only Ney's score) I agree they should be removed or allowed without points.

Yes, but those results had mandatory RTC HWBOT application (which is still not available in public) and also were done in live with eyes of judges everywhere.

Well as far as I know in the rules clearly is that only Skylake is allowed for win 8/10 because of removed RTC bug. All PRO guys should know it ^^

Golden E8500, beginning of C2D 45nm, I found a golden one, in 15 minutes we did 3rd place in CPU-Z (Duck had WR back than), it was my first LN2 session and after 15 min cpu dead. I should stop overclocking than ^^ no idea why I had mental breakdown and pushed more for XOC :banana:

I am not sure why 5 GHz XTU on Skylake is so bugged. On Haswell it scaled with every timing and memory MHz... the limits were our memories, not the estimated score by program.

Gunexit ^^ But prices are decent, good luck with the sale

New Titans are very strong even in 3-Way and 4-Way thx for posting results

Well I am not retiring yet, just considering and changing department to "binning" factory ^^

Cause I won't do that without a profit. I want fun + get back all the $ I invested in XOC during the years ^^

Great bunch of scores!

That's why I am considering Xtreme Retirement and stay as massive binner who doesn't keep anything good for himself and sells out all the cherries Pretty much same way as Sam. He retired from HWBOT and still has XOC fun!

I release you from your curse and will grab kit #1 ^^

That's why I am studying political science

will grab few

This is just a warm up

Crazy CPU, good job. Lucky hand?

I have just updated the list of available CPUs and added one more gem

WTF? For past stages 1080 wasn't allowed and we had to use 980 TI despite the fact it was already launched earlier and available from all countries, always with with PRO CUP there was rule that hw had to be available before the start of competition +1 month for availability, it;'s only sold in US and EMEA region as I have in the email from sales director of Nvidia. That is utter BS. It's totally against the rules because PRO CUP started 1st, and official launch was 2nd. Despite the obvious reasons, why HWBOT wants to promote worldwide limited, nvidia exclusive card which is not designed for XOC and is ridiculously expensive? In my eyes Titan card is like "Xeon", "Opteron" CPUs, not for ocers, enthusiasts (even if some samples or models are "unclocked" or can be overclocked by some mods), more for professional usage. If you want numbers, guess who are the customers who buy the biggest amount of old Titans, Titans X and so on? Military, research centres for simulations, bitcoin farms, not gamers or enthusiasts. Easy example - Half year ago polish military research centre bought 1000 Titan X cards in one transaction and as far as I know they bought more later.

All cpus are BOXED versions and come with original Intel BOX and are delidded, in 100% working condition. CPUs were binned on Asus Maximus VIII Extreme with 0015 BIOS with LoadLine calibration level 7 and using Galaxy Fish Card in 4th slot (PCIE from PCH) for 2D tests. I can give advices for Maximus VIII Extreme how to clock cpus, set proper voltages to reach the desired clocks. I attach screenshot for each CPU with FPO/SN and fully visible voltages in TurboV software and CBB information so there is not mistake done by potential buyer. Please note that boot settings in BIOS are different, full out voltages I set in OS. It's not easy to find a good CPU, according to mine calculation below 10% are even worthy to try on LN2 and than CPU might totally not scale or be fully coldbugged. Each screenshot is taken after minimum 2, mostly 3 runs in the row of benchmark. It's not a lucky run screenshot. CPUs will be cleaned before shipping from all the marker labels on IHS. LN2 BIN Real gem 1. i5 6600K @ 6600 MHz HWBOT PRIME on LN2 (fast test)/ 6560 HWBOT PRIME @ 1.9v - PENDING 2. i7 6700K @ 6500/6500 MHz HWBOT PRIME on LN2 @ 1.90v - SOLD Very strong cache, CPU can run 6500 MHz in the loop (6500 HWBOT PRIME works @ 1.9v but with higher cache frequency I pushed a little more voltage 1,91v). 3. i7 6700K @ 6435 MHz HWBOT PRIME on LN2 @ 1.9v - SOLD Cache flies around 6200 MHz, CBB is -142*C 4. i7 6700K @ 6400 MHz HWBOT PRIME on LN2, but still can do 6.3 Cinebench R15 - SOLD CPU loves low PLL Termination, very easy to bench and use, very stable, amazing CBB -175*C 5. i5 6600K @ 6400 MHz Cinebench R15 on LN2 @ around 1.8v - SOLD ( Paypal is preferred but buyer covers fees or sends as gift. Buyer is responsible for the shipping cost, in EU it's 30 Euro by for a priority package (2-3 days) by Polish Post with a tracking number and insurance, 20 Euro without insurance or 5 Euro for registered priority letter with tracking, for other outside EU - please ask for the details. Please contact me via PM or in the thread. Disclaimer: No returns accepted, I am selling privately and not business related. I also cannot provide warranty for the exact clocks cause XOC overclocking depends from too many different factors, but gladly I will help with settings if someone has some issues in reaching the clocks. If CPU dies during OCing, I can assist in getting brand new (unbinned) RMA replacement, but buyer covers shipping fees in both direction (to Poland and back). Also because CPUs were overclocked on LN2 and delidded I can't 100% guarantee that RMA will be successful.